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"Market analysis makes it clear: sex is driving the development and adoption of artificial intelligence." I recall seeing - many many years ago - a WoW video "

by markx2 3y ago

"Market analysis makes it clear: sex is driving the development and adoption of artificial intelligence." I recall seeing - many many years ago - a WoW video "The internet is for porn" . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRgNOyCnbqg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRgNOyCnbqg Then more recently there was the "Pornhub. The biggest archive of nothing" advertising - SFW - https://www.adweek.com/files/imagecache/node-detail/pornhub-finalists-12-2014.jpg https://www.adweek.com/files/imagecache/node-detail/pornhub-... I cannot see any scenario where porn 'would be left behind'.

jddj 3y ago
Porn won't be left behind. The encumbents could be.
zeroonetwothree 3y ago
The Internet is for Porn is a well known song from Avenue Q (predating wow)
- ghaff 3y ago
  Porn driving a lot of the things on the Internet (which isn't quite the same sentiment) long predates Avenue Q and almost certainly the Web. There was a fair bit of porn on many BBS systems as well--not video obviously.
  - thesuitonym 3y ago
    Okay fine, who cares? The song is still from Avenue Q.
  - mcphage 3y ago
    > Porn driving a lot of the things on the Internet long predates Avenue Q Right, but "The internet is for porn" is also a specific song from the musical Avenue Q, and that's the song that's being sung in the WoW video linked above. So the parent poster wasn't talking about the sentiment in general, but the specific song being used.
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citizenkeen 3y ago
Just in case anybody doesn't know, "The Internet Is For Porn" is from the Tony-award winning musical Avenue Q. It's a lot more than a "WoW video". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avenue_Q https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avenue_Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJRAXjHwnOk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJRAXjHwnOk Edit: Seeing sibling replies, I'm glad most people do know.
dfxm12 3y ago
You whiffed on the context of the quote. Reid isn't suggesting porn, the medium, will be left behind (just the opposite, really). She wants to make sure that porn, the people who make up the industry, are able to reap the benefits of AI. She wants to make sure at the very least that some unaffiliated AI project isn't just stealing these people's work, names, likenesses, etc., and selling it.
- AmericanChopper 3y ago
  > She wants to make sure at the very least that some unaffiliated AI project isn't just stealing these people's work, names, likenesses, etc., and selling it. Sounds like thinly veiled ludditism to me, why would it be necessary for AI porn to steal anybody’s likeness? I’m sure the 100% generated content is fine without any need for that. It’s hard to drum up any sympathy for such an exploitative industry (exploitative for both the participants and the customers). Am I supposed to care that pornographers ability to profit of their unhealthy and addictive product is in jeopardy?
  - _Algernon_ 3y ago
    Yup. Seems pretty much on par with defending the profit margins of the tobacco industry.
  - almatabata 3y ago
    > Sounds like thinly veiled ludditism to me, why would it be necessary for AI porn to steal anybody’s likeness? Just look at what people currently do with the models. You already see a lot of deepfake attempts. This will only increase as the technology improves. If you can generate a scene from scratch people will ask it to generate a full porn movie with the actor/actress of their choice. > It’s hard to drum up any sympathy for such an exploitative industry (exploitative for both the participants and the customers). I think if you care about an actor losing income over AI generated works, you would naturally care about a porn actor losing income over this. Especially when the AI used your work as training data and might reproduce your likeness without you getting anything out of it. I can understand the dislike for the industry because parts of it prey on the weak to make money. If we make a legal framework for movie actors it should also apply to pron actors.
napierzaza 3y ago
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znpy 3y ago
> I recall seeing - many many years ago - a WoW video "The internet is for porn" I remember that too… what was it, 15 years ago? I definitely wasn’t expecting that video to resurface and be actually relevant lol
dessimus 3y ago
Porn has been influencing tech long before AI or the Internet. "I see your kineograph of a galloping horse and raise you this one of a burlesque dancer."
TMWNN 3y ago
>I recall seeing - many many years ago - a WoW video "The internet is for porn" . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRgNOyCnbqg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRgNOyCnbqg Relevant: <https://np.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/bmp1bt/why_im_rolling_a_paladin_in_classic/ https://np.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/bmp1bt/why_im_ro...> (Context: Retribution Paladin in "classic" (the original release of) World of Warcraft has weak attacks compared to other classes/specs.)

by markx2 3y ago

jddj 3y ago

Porn won't be left behind. The encumbents could be.

zeroonetwothree 3y ago

The Internet is for Porn is a well known song from Avenue Q (predating wow)

ghaff 3y ago
Porn driving a lot of the things on the Internet (which isn't quite the same sentiment) long predates Avenue Q and almost certainly the Web. There was a fair bit of porn on many BBS systems as well--not video obviously.
- thesuitonym 3y ago
  Okay fine, who cares? The song is still from Avenue Q.
- mcphage 3y ago
  > Porn driving a lot of the things on the Internet long predates Avenue Q Right, but "The internet is for porn" is also a specific song from the musical Avenue Q, and that's the song that's being sung in the WoW video linked above. So the parent poster wasn't talking about the sentiment in general, but the specific song being used.

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citizenkeen 3y ago

Just in case anybody doesn't know, "The Internet Is For Porn" is from the Tony-award winning musical Avenue Q. It's a lot more than a "WoW video". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avenue_Q https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avenue_Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJRAXjHwnOk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJRAXjHwnOk Edit: Seeing sibling replies, I'm glad most people do know.

dfxm12 3y ago

You whiffed on the context of the quote. Reid isn't suggesting porn, the medium, will be left behind (just the opposite, really). She wants to make sure that porn, the people who make up the industry, are able to reap the benefits of AI. She wants to make sure at the very least that some unaffiliated AI project isn't just stealing these people's work, names, likenesses, etc., and selling it.

AmericanChopper 3y ago
> She wants to make sure at the very least that some unaffiliated AI project isn't just stealing these people's work, names, likenesses, etc., and selling it. Sounds like thinly veiled ludditism to me, why would it be necessary for AI porn to steal anybody’s likeness? I’m sure the 100% generated content is fine without any need for that. It’s hard to drum up any sympathy for such an exploitative industry (exploitative for both the participants and the customers). Am I supposed to care that pornographers ability to profit of their unhealthy and addictive product is in jeopardy?
- _Algernon_ 3y ago
  Yup. Seems pretty much on par with defending the profit margins of the tobacco industry.
- almatabata 3y ago
  > Sounds like thinly veiled ludditism to me, why would it be necessary for AI porn to steal anybody’s likeness? Just look at what people currently do with the models. You already see a lot of deepfake attempts. This will only increase as the technology improves. If you can generate a scene from scratch people will ask it to generate a full porn movie with the actor/actress of their choice. > It’s hard to drum up any sympathy for such an exploitative industry (exploitative for both the participants and the customers). I think if you care about an actor losing income over AI generated works, you would naturally care about a porn actor losing income over this. Especially when the AI used your work as training data and might reproduce your likeness without you getting anything out of it. I can understand the dislike for the industry because parts of it prey on the weak to make money. If we make a legal framework for movie actors it should also apply to pron actors.

napierzaza 3y ago

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znpy 3y ago

> I recall seeing - many many years ago - a WoW video "The internet is for porn" I remember that too… what was it, 15 years ago? I definitely wasn’t expecting that video to resurface and be actually relevant lol

dessimus 3y ago

Porn has been influencing tech long before AI or the Internet. "I see your kineograph of a galloping horse and raise you this one of a burlesque dancer."

TMWNN 3y ago

>I recall seeing - many many years ago - a WoW video "The internet is for porn" . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRgNOyCnbqg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRgNOyCnbqg Relevant: <https://np.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/bmp1bt/why_im_rolling_a_paladin_in_classic/ https://np.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/bmp1bt/why_im_ro...> (Context: Retribution Paladin in "classic" (the original release of) World of Warcraft has weak attacks compared to other classes/specs.)