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> I love the porn industry. I cherish it, it's been so good to me, and I have always tried my hardest to be giving back and seeing what I can do. I know that a

> I love the porn industry. I cherish it, it's been so good to me, and I have always tried my hardest to be giving back and seeing what I can do. I know that a lot, and I mean a lot of people watch porn - yet I don’t know anyone who would describe themselves as “cherishing” the industry for being good to them. Heck, most “performers” say… it’s absolutely merciless to them; because the moment they aren’t in the perfect prime of their lives, they’re done.

fullshark 3y ago
She's selling a product here, you can't be sure the quotes are sincere.
- tstrimple 3y ago
  In addition, she's barely over 30 and a multi-millionaire. It could very well be true that porn has been good to her without it being good for performers overall.
- richbell 3y ago
  You can also find interviews where she describes the way that porn negatively affected her personal relationships (family, friends, romantic interests).
conductr 3y ago
Both can be true, and often are. It’s just like normal acting, sports, etc. Its a meat grinder for most but a few actually do win those lotteries and their appreciation of that is completely understandable
falcolas 3y ago
Well, there are some teachers who moved into the streaming side of the industry and started earning well over 10x their teacher salaries. And the streaming side is pretty tame compared to the "professional" production side of things. At the end of the day, there's a lot of money in that profession, and I can certainly see how someone would cherish the money it produced for them. It's far from the only industry which participants will age out of quickly.
- PlatinumHarp 3y ago
  It's really not different than any other athletic pursuit.
- lukifer 3y ago
  My suspicion is that at least some of that revenue is moated by social stigma: that a customer is only partially paying for the service received, and is mostly compensating for impacts to reputation and/or lost income in the future (effectively gating supply and therefore raising price). As such stigmas erode, I suspect we’ll see a reversion to the mean: a small handful of disproportionate successes, and a long-tail of subsistence wages (if not “Walmartification” of sex work). (I’m not taking a stance on whether such stigmas eroding is good or bad.) While I’m certainly sympathetic to the “sex work is work” perspective, it’s worth considering the full implications: for instance, that there would be nothing stopping sexual services being included in job descriptions for other lines of work (“administrative assistant with benefits”). It’s the thin end of the wedge, to ask how truly “consensual” employment relationships can be, sexual or otherwise, in contexts of power asymmetry.
dentemple 3y ago
Instead of scoffing at the idea of it, why not ask questions to better understand _why_ they feel that way? Why is it that your knee-jerk reaction here is just to discount their opinion entirely in place of your own (likely entirely un-informed) opinion about it?
lukifer 3y ago
It may the case that she has a strong enough personal brand, that her experience has been different than many of the horror stories. An analogy comes to mind of an NFL player vs an NCAA player: in both cases, the career might be short-lived and carry health risks, but the former at least carries more compensation and bargaining power, such that the career might end in comfortable retirement rather than destitution. And/or: this could simply be the kind of quasi-Stockholm-Syndrome often seen of those in exploitative relationships, be they labor or otherwise. But while I believe the many disgusting stories we’ve heard about that industry, I’d be hesitant to make assumptions about the motives and experiences of any one individual, in either direction.
obeid 3y ago
Be open to the fact that people watch content of sex workers of all ages, genders sizes, and levels of attraction. What is 'prime' for you, might not be someone else's cup of tea.
randomdata 3y ago
> Heck, most “performers” say… it’s absolutely merciless to them Sounds like work in general, really. Most people wills say that their work is merciless, yet the "top 1%" will tell you a completely different story. I expect Reid can be considered a "top 1%"-er.
brokenbyclouds 3y ago
I mean, that's almost exactly how mainstream Hollywood treats actors, women in particular, as well. It tracks to me.

fullshark 3y ago

She's selling a product here, you can't be sure the quotes are sincere.

tstrimple 3y ago
In addition, she's barely over 30 and a multi-millionaire. It could very well be true that porn has been good to her without it being good for performers overall.
richbell 3y ago
You can also find interviews where she describes the way that porn negatively affected her personal relationships (family, friends, romantic interests).

conductr 3y ago

Both can be true, and often are. It’s just like normal acting, sports, etc. Its a meat grinder for most but a few actually do win those lotteries and their appreciation of that is completely understandable

falcolas 3y ago

Well, there are some teachers who moved into the streaming side of the industry and started earning well over 10x their teacher salaries. And the streaming side is pretty tame compared to the "professional" production side of things. At the end of the day, there's a lot of money in that profession, and I can certainly see how someone would cherish the money it produced for them. It's far from the only industry which participants will age out of quickly.

PlatinumHarp 3y ago
It's really not different than any other athletic pursuit.
lukifer 3y ago
My suspicion is that at least some of that revenue is moated by social stigma: that a customer is only partially paying for the service received, and is mostly compensating for impacts to reputation and/or lost income in the future (effectively gating supply and therefore raising price). As such stigmas erode, I suspect we’ll see a reversion to the mean: a small handful of disproportionate successes, and a long-tail of subsistence wages (if not “Walmartification” of sex work). (I’m not taking a stance on whether such stigmas eroding is good or bad.) While I’m certainly sympathetic to the “sex work is work” perspective, it’s worth considering the full implications: for instance, that there would be nothing stopping sexual services being included in job descriptions for other lines of work (“administrative assistant with benefits”). It’s the thin end of the wedge, to ask how truly “consensual” employment relationships can be, sexual or otherwise, in contexts of power asymmetry.

dentemple 3y ago

Instead of scoffing at the idea of it, why not ask questions to better understand _why_ they feel that way? Why is it that your knee-jerk reaction here is just to discount their opinion entirely in place of your own (likely entirely un-informed) opinion about it?

lukifer 3y ago

It may the case that she has a strong enough personal brand, that her experience has been different than many of the horror stories. An analogy comes to mind of an NFL player vs an NCAA player: in both cases, the career might be short-lived and carry health risks, but the former at least carries more compensation and bargaining power, such that the career might end in comfortable retirement rather than destitution. And/or: this could simply be the kind of quasi-Stockholm-Syndrome often seen of those in exploitative relationships, be they labor or otherwise. But while I believe the many disgusting stories we’ve heard about that industry, I’d be hesitant to make assumptions about the motives and experiences of any one individual, in either direction.

obeid 3y ago

Be open to the fact that people watch content of sex workers of all ages, genders sizes, and levels of attraction. What is 'prime' for you, might not be someone else's cup of tea.

randomdata 3y ago

> Heck, most “performers” say… it’s absolutely merciless to them Sounds like work in general, really. Most people wills say that their work is merciless, yet the "top 1%" will tell you a completely different story. I expect Reid can be considered a "top 1%"-er.

brokenbyclouds 3y ago

I mean, that's almost exactly how mainstream Hollywood treats actors, women in particular, as well. It tracks to me.