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Not saying this applies, but: The speed of the raspberry pi goes up dramatically when using a fast USB disk instead of micro SD. Most people start with a micro

by treve 3y ago

Not saying this applies, but: The speed of the raspberry pi goes up dramatically when using a fast USB disk instead of micro SD. Most people start with a micro SD, and I had no idea how much faster a Pi could go.

hkt 3y ago
I'll anecdotally confirm this - fast IO matters and sped my pi desktop up considerably.
- DwnVoteHoneyPot 3y ago
  Yeah I confirm too. Fast IO plus a little cooling fan makes the Pi 4 almost enough for daily desktop. I think the Pi 5 will get me all the way there.
fensgrim 3y ago
my 2¢: if external storage is not an option for some reason, dropping ext4 in favor for F2FS will do a lot of good for sparing your sdcard from early death (due to superblock updates happening every so often), if not for performance due to ext4 not being flash-aware by design. If that's not an option AND your setup has no power issues (e.g. it has good power supply, externally powered usb hub etc), disabling journalling might also improve performance: tune2fs -O ^has_journal /dev/sdaXXX (can't do it on mounted fs, so either do it from initram consolee, do pivot_root to minimal fs in ram, or do it from another machine)
- monocasa 3y ago
  SD cards have a FTL internally; I'm not sure F2FS helps you much there.
  - sangnoir 3y ago
    F2FS was specifically designed for flash storage and takes FTL into account, unlike ext4. So it should help.
peppercat10 3y ago
It does apply to me - I never tried it with a USB disk. I'm getting an RPi5 eventually, and I'll try this out. Thanks for sharing!
- moffkalast 3y ago
  With the Pi 5 you can do better than that, there's PCIe support and an official NVMe hat. Or will be eventually, anyway. https://www.raspberrypi.com/app/uploads/2023/09/40e82000-af31-4f9a-9fa4-3dc1ebfed2c3-1024x682.jpg https://www.raspberrypi.com/app/uploads/2023/09/40e82000-af3...
- treve 3y ago
  Awesome! Would love to hear if/how your experience changes
Salgat 3y ago
Now that the RPi 5 exposes a PCIe interface, I have a feeling we're going to see a lot more folks adopting it as a NAS.
- Infernal 3y ago
  If only FreeNAS (TrueNAS now?) would run on it
  - extraduder_ire 3y ago
    Does it not? what's the Pi missing? I assume truenas scale (the linux based one) would work better.
    - sangnoir 3y ago
      TrueNAS (the BSD one) also works fine when Virtualized under Linux
    - Infernal 3y ago
      As far as I know there isn’t an ARM build of TrueNAS but I could be wrong
- wintermutestwin 3y ago
  If the drives aren’t powered by the pi, then aren’t there going to be grounding issues with a NAS?
nottorp 3y ago
yes, m.2 slot when? same for network

by treve 3y ago

hkt 3y ago

I'll anecdotally confirm this - fast IO matters and sped my pi desktop up considerably.

DwnVoteHoneyPot 3y ago
Yeah I confirm too. Fast IO plus a little cooling fan makes the Pi 4 almost enough for daily desktop. I think the Pi 5 will get me all the way there.

fensgrim 3y ago

my 2¢: if external storage is not an option for some reason, dropping ext4 in favor for F2FS will do a lot of good for sparing your sdcard from early death (due to superblock updates happening every so often), if not for performance due to ext4 not being flash-aware by design. If that's not an option AND your setup has no power issues (e.g. it has good power supply, externally powered usb hub etc), disabling journalling might also improve performance: tune2fs -O ^has_journal /dev/sdaXXX (can't do it on mounted fs, so either do it from initram consolee, do pivot_root to minimal fs in ram, or do it from another machine)

monocasa 3y ago
SD cards have a FTL internally; I'm not sure F2FS helps you much there.
- sangnoir 3y ago
  F2FS was specifically designed for flash storage and takes FTL into account, unlike ext4. So it should help.

peppercat10 3y ago

It does apply to me - I never tried it with a USB disk. I'm getting an RPi5 eventually, and I'll try this out. Thanks for sharing!

moffkalast 3y ago
With the Pi 5 you can do better than that, there's PCIe support and an official NVMe hat. Or will be eventually, anyway. https://www.raspberrypi.com/app/uploads/2023/09/40e82000-af31-4f9a-9fa4-3dc1ebfed2c3-1024x682.jpg https://www.raspberrypi.com/app/uploads/2023/09/40e82000-af3...
treve 3y ago
Awesome! Would love to hear if/how your experience changes

Salgat 3y ago

Now that the RPi 5 exposes a PCIe interface, I have a feeling we're going to see a lot more folks adopting it as a NAS.

Infernal 3y ago
If only FreeNAS (TrueNAS now?) would run on it
- extraduder_ire 3y ago
  Does it not? what's the Pi missing? I assume truenas scale (the linux based one) would work better.
  - sangnoir 3y ago
    TrueNAS (the BSD one) also works fine when Virtualized under Linux
  - Infernal 3y ago
    As far as I know there isn’t an ARM build of TrueNAS but I could be wrong
wintermutestwin 3y ago
If the drives aren’t powered by the pi, then aren’t there going to be grounding issues with a NAS?

nottorp 3y ago

yes, m.2 slot when? same for network