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The first image is quite disturbing. I wasn't ready for that. Maybe we need tags for those kinds of images.

by m_a_g 3y ago

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YouSuck2 3y ago
Not relevant... contact the admins
kaliqt 3y ago
I'm going to be honest, here we are techies which are supposed to be intellectual to an extent. We should be able to handle more violent truths natively: e.g. seeing images like that. Through understanding, we can dismiss a chunk of the fear/repulsion we might feel for images such as those.
- colanderman 3y ago
  We're not all robots. Images have emotional impact.
- 2-718-281-828 3y ago
  there is no "we" on a website like this and most readers here are certainly not intellectual. maybe intellectual to an extent ... but everybody is intellectual to an extent.
- itishappy 3y ago
  > here we are techies which are supposed to be intellectual to an extent. We should be able to handle more violent truths natively I think many view stoicism in the face of such imagery to be a sign of an enlightened mind, but I disagree. Empathy is a form of intelligence. The images from the article are disturbing, and I'd argue they should be. That so many of us are quick to discount the obvious pain and suffering within is concerning to me, and I'd even label it a deficiency. We should feel upset by death and dismemberment.
  - surgical_fire 3y ago
    Nature is brutal and deadly. If the orcas don't eat they will starve. It is not a case of lacking empathy, it is more a case of recognizing that those images, as gory is they might be, are simply depictions of raw nature functioning as it should. Predator eats prey, and both play a role in this cycle. I personally find it fascinating, especially as humans evolved past the need to adapt to nature, and rather manipulate nature to better suit themselves.
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- soco 3y ago
  It may be me living in a (wrong) bubble, but I have the impression that everything must be more gruesome nowadays. Take Hollywood movies where every shot must splatter blood on the walls behind, successful comics are all gory, even in books you'd see all this described in every detail. So these journalists are simply following a trend.
bloopernova 3y ago
I wish sites had standardized on NSFL in addition to marking things NSFW. (Speaking generally, not specifically about HN here) Or work like the conventional commits standard, and use "CW(nudity)" and "CW(gore)" where CW = Content Warning. But then you'd have people pedantically arguing over exactly what words to use. Maybe tags instead? "CW(nature,gore,sea,flesh)". Of course then you'd be relying on people's good graces to classify the links correctly. I have some hope that at least a sizable minority would use the content warnings correctly, mostly because of Lemmy and Mastodon. On the fediverse, people often make an effort to describe the images they post in descriptive text, so maybe they'd classify links well enough?
- lagniappe 3y ago
  HN is one of the last places that needs trigger warnings and content warnings.
  - bloopernova 3y ago
    I was speaking more generally, not specifically about HN.
  - demondemidi 3y ago
    And how exactly does a trigger warning hurt you in any way shape or form? If an utterly harmless trigger warning triggers you so easily, well guess what…
    - kcplate 3y ago
      Because it will get abused and used as a tool for content suppression by the bad actors on here. Just like flagging is used for a similar purpose occasionally on here.
      - demondemidi 3y ago
        Do you get flagged often by the bad actors? Because after a decade being on here the only things that get flagged are the worst of the worst. The two mods are pretty good about it. This makes me wonder why you’re so worried.
bloopernova 3y ago
It is very sad that people are downvoting you for finding something disturbing. Since the spring/summer, I feel like I've noticed a lot more downvotes being handed out. I really wish I had access to anonymized HN voting data so I could see whether it's a small group of accounts doing it, or if there's other patterns of behaviour. Oh, and people are allowed to find things disturbing!! Whatever the experience of the generic HN user might be, there's a myriad of reasons that someone is upset by horrific images. It's like mocking someone for not watching cartel torture videos or something! Let people enjoy things, and let people dislike things without bullying.
- MichaelZuo 3y ago
  > Oh, and people are allowed to find things disturbing!! Doesn't this also apply to those who are downvoting the parent? They may find the parent's comment itself to be disturbing. Maybe a small fraction of the readerbase are random downvoters, another misanthropes, another just don't like tangential remarks about images period, etc...
h2odragon 3y ago
With all sympathy; I must advise you that the world is full of disturbing images and even experiences. You are very likely to experience more of them. Perhaps you would be happier in the long term if you found some accommodation and acceptance. Not that you have to participate, but realize that trying to avoid bad things can only result in avoiding much of the world. Even tho the bad things are present, there's many good things there too.
BrandoElFollito 3y ago
I went to the article to check the image and it looks like a orca attacking something. What was disturbing in this image? I am genuinely asking because with the amount of brutality we see everyday that picture did not look bad to me.

The first image is quite disturbing. I wasn't ready for that. Maybe we need tags for those kinds of images.

by m_a_g 3y ago

The first image is quite disturbing. I wasn't ready for that. Maybe we need tags for those kinds of images.

deleted 3y ago

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YouSuck2 3y ago

Not relevant... contact the admins

kaliqt 3y ago

I'm going to be honest, here we are techies which are supposed to be intellectual to an extent. We should be able to handle more violent truths natively: e.g. seeing images like that. Through understanding, we can dismiss a chunk of the fear/repulsion we might feel for images such as those.

colanderman 3y ago
We're not all robots. Images have emotional impact.
2-718-281-828 3y ago
there is no "we" on a website like this and most readers here are certainly not intellectual. maybe intellectual to an extent ... but everybody is intellectual to an extent.
itishappy 3y ago
> here we are techies which are supposed to be intellectual to an extent. We should be able to handle more violent truths natively I think many view stoicism in the face of such imagery to be a sign of an enlightened mind, but I disagree. Empathy is a form of intelligence. The images from the article are disturbing, and I'd argue they should be. That so many of us are quick to discount the obvious pain and suffering within is concerning to me, and I'd even label it a deficiency. We should feel upset by death and dismemberment.
- surgical_fire 3y ago
  Nature is brutal and deadly. If the orcas don't eat they will starve. It is not a case of lacking empathy, it is more a case of recognizing that those images, as gory is they might be, are simply depictions of raw nature functioning as it should. Predator eats prey, and both play a role in this cycle. I personally find it fascinating, especially as humans evolved past the need to adapt to nature, and rather manipulate nature to better suit themselves.
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soco 3y ago
It may be me living in a (wrong) bubble, but I have the impression that everything must be more gruesome nowadays. Take Hollywood movies where every shot must splatter blood on the walls behind, successful comics are all gory, even in books you'd see all this described in every detail. So these journalists are simply following a trend.

bloopernova 3y ago

I wish sites had standardized on NSFL in addition to marking things NSFW. (Speaking generally, not specifically about HN here) Or work like the conventional commits standard, and use "CW(nudity)" and "CW(gore)" where CW = Content Warning. But then you'd have people pedantically arguing over exactly what words to use. Maybe tags instead? "CW(nature,gore,sea,flesh)". Of course then you'd be relying on people's good graces to classify the links correctly. I have some hope that at least a sizable minority would use the content warnings correctly, mostly because of Lemmy and Mastodon. On the fediverse, people often make an effort to describe the images they post in descriptive text, so maybe they'd classify links well enough?

lagniappe 3y ago
HN is one of the last places that needs trigger warnings and content warnings.
- bloopernova 3y ago
  I was speaking more generally, not specifically about HN.
- demondemidi 3y ago
  And how exactly does a trigger warning hurt you in any way shape or form? If an utterly harmless trigger warning triggers you so easily, well guess what…
  - kcplate 3y ago
    Because it will get abused and used as a tool for content suppression by the bad actors on here. Just like flagging is used for a similar purpose occasionally on here.
    - demondemidi 3y ago
      Do you get flagged often by the bad actors? Because after a decade being on here the only things that get flagged are the worst of the worst. The two mods are pretty good about it. This makes me wonder why you’re so worried.

bloopernova 3y ago

It is very sad that people are downvoting you for finding something disturbing. Since the spring/summer, I feel like I've noticed a lot more downvotes being handed out. I really wish I had access to anonymized HN voting data so I could see whether it's a small group of accounts doing it, or if there's other patterns of behaviour. Oh, and people are allowed to find things disturbing!! Whatever the experience of the generic HN user might be, there's a myriad of reasons that someone is upset by horrific images. It's like mocking someone for not watching cartel torture videos or something! Let people enjoy things, and let people dislike things without bullying.

MichaelZuo 3y ago
> Oh, and people are allowed to find things disturbing!! Doesn't this also apply to those who are downvoting the parent? They may find the parent's comment itself to be disturbing. Maybe a small fraction of the readerbase are random downvoters, another misanthropes, another just don't like tangential remarks about images period, etc...

h2odragon 3y ago

With all sympathy; I must advise you that the world is full of disturbing images and even experiences. You are very likely to experience more of them. Perhaps you would be happier in the long term if you found some accommodation and acceptance. Not that you have to participate, but realize that trying to avoid bad things can only result in avoiding much of the world. Even tho the bad things are present, there's many good things there too.

BrandoElFollito 3y ago

I went to the article to check the image and it looks like a orca attacking something. What was disturbing in this image? I am genuinely asking because with the amount of brutality we see everyday that picture did not look bad to me.