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> In Europe, it seems like HSR stations are often in greenfield locations outside of town. This is not true at all. If this were the case, it would thoroughly
by delta_p_delta_x 3y ago
> In Europe, it seems like HSR stations are often in greenfield locations outside of town.
This is not true at all. If this were the case, it would thoroughly defeat the core advantage of HSR over air travel: fast connections between city centres without requiring passengers to travel to some far-flung port of call, adding an additional two hours at least.
All the Gares, Hauptbahnhofs, Staziones, Estacións, and St Pancrases of Europe are bang smack in the middle of their respective cities, and almost all predate the introduction of HSR by around a century or so, barring renovations here and there. The only truly brand-new HSR stations are in Japan and China.
Plenty of HSR within European cities use existing infrastructure and 1435 mm standard gauge, and travel at lower speeds to account for this. The trains usually only get up to speed as they leave the city and enter dedicated high-speed railways with grade separation, concrete sleepers, reduced turning radii, etc.
- flomo 3y agoThat's what I mean by foamer logic, most of that American passenger rail stuff went defunct a hundred years ago. Fresno has 20mph vegetable trains and now a 20 mile long HSR viaduct to "revitalize" (blight) their pathetic downtown. There's no money for all the tunneling they want to do. (Take a look at the EIRs.) The French came here and recommended a greenfield route, which is what they built in France, you can see the bypasses on google maps. They concluded that California is full of shit, and built HSR in Morocco instead.