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I feel like I'm missing basic context. Are these Russian men supposed to be enlisted, or are they ineligible? Is it unusual they targeted a mosque, or is this

I feel like I'm missing basic context. Are these Russian men supposed to be enlisted, or are they ineligible? Is it unusual they targeted a mosque, or is this just one of hundreds of places press gangs have targeted? My deepest sympathies to any Russians trying to avoid the war on Ukraine, though.

cvccvroomvroom 3y ago
Forcible conscription means all of the volunteers are occupied or dead. Putin is pressing criminal prisoners and disliked minorities into service with little training or logistics as bodies to feed monsters of war on the western front, and continue the carnage until he incorrectly believes interest in aid to Ukraine will subside. At the endpoint of when Putin will eventually have to conscript muddle-class Muscovites, teenagers, and elderly men, that horse hair holding the Sword of Damocles over his head is more likely to give way. A substantial number of Russian men of fighting age have already hidden themselves or fled the country.
- lostmsu 3y ago
  It's an optimistic theory, but if it were the case, they wouldn't have started with Moscow.
  - thomasz 3y ago
    They would start with undesirables like political opponents and minorities first.
  - benterix 3y ago
    It's not actually Moscow but a town nearby, the title is misleading.
    - filoleg 3y ago
      It isn’t misleading, Kotelniki (the place in the article) is as much a part of Moscow oblast as Khimki or Domodedovo. And people routinely just refer to those areas as Moscow all the time. Beyond that, Moscow subway transit system goes to Kotelniki as well, I just doublechecked that. Here is an analogy that might help those familiar with the US: it is kind of like Yonkers is to NYC, Chicago suburbs are to Chicago the city, or Burbank is to Los Angeles.
vGPU 3y ago
Meduza is a notorious propaganda outlet with a penchant for just blatantly making stuff up. Considering even twitter (now X) seems to have absolutely no other information aside from the same copy-pasted few sentences despite it being over 24 hours, I’d take it with a grain of salt for now.
- 0xDEF 3y ago
  >Meduza is a notorious propaganda outlet with a penchant for just blatantly making stuff up. No, it's credible exiled Russian media. Your account however has a history of just blatantly making up pro-Russian claims. >Considering even twitter (now X) There are a lot of things you can no longer find on xhitter because serious people are leaving that bit and misinformation filled hellhole.
  - vGPU 3y ago
    Meduza is well known to be funded by the UK FCO project, known for funding propaganda projects such as the push for regime change in Syria, and receiving funding from NATO sources. Nor are they a “exiled Russian media”. They were founded in Latvia. Re: my account: I rarely post on the topic of politics, and my last comment on Russia/ukraine was over three weeks ago, and was a discussion on electronic warfare. Stop lying.
    - dragonwriter 3y ago
      > Nor are they a “exiled Russian media”. They were founded in Latvia. Founded by Russian journalists in Latvia after one of the founders were fired from a Russian media outlet for work unpopular with the Russian government, initially staffed by former employees of the same Russian media outlet. So, “exiled Russian media” is (if somewgat awkwardly phrased, “Russian exile media” would I think be more natural) reasonably accurate.
      - vGPU 3y ago
        Fired != exiled.
ac130kz 3y ago
They are obliged to serve unless they prove in court that their religion doesn't allow it or there's a serious medical condition. With that said, it's illegal to be delivered to an enlistment office, in such a deeply ill state as Russia though, the laws just don't work.

cvccvroomvroom 3y ago

Forcible conscription means all of the volunteers are occupied or dead. Putin is pressing criminal prisoners and disliked minorities into service with little training or logistics as bodies to feed monsters of war on the western front, and continue the carnage until he incorrectly believes interest in aid to Ukraine will subside. At the endpoint of when Putin will eventually have to conscript muddle-class Muscovites, teenagers, and elderly men, that horse hair holding the Sword of Damocles over his head is more likely to give way. A substantial number of Russian men of fighting age have already hidden themselves or fled the country.

lostmsu 3y ago
It's an optimistic theory, but if it were the case, they wouldn't have started with Moscow.
- thomasz 3y ago
  They would start with undesirables like political opponents and minorities first.
- benterix 3y ago
  It's not actually Moscow but a town nearby, the title is misleading.
  - filoleg 3y ago
    It isn’t misleading, Kotelniki (the place in the article) is as much a part of Moscow oblast as Khimki or Domodedovo. And people routinely just refer to those areas as Moscow all the time. Beyond that, Moscow subway transit system goes to Kotelniki as well, I just doublechecked that. Here is an analogy that might help those familiar with the US: it is kind of like Yonkers is to NYC, Chicago suburbs are to Chicago the city, or Burbank is to Los Angeles.

vGPU 3y ago

Meduza is a notorious propaganda outlet with a penchant for just blatantly making stuff up. Considering even twitter (now X) seems to have absolutely no other information aside from the same copy-pasted few sentences despite it being over 24 hours, I’d take it with a grain of salt for now.

0xDEF 3y ago
>Meduza is a notorious propaganda outlet with a penchant for just blatantly making stuff up. No, it's credible exiled Russian media. Your account however has a history of just blatantly making up pro-Russian claims. >Considering even twitter (now X) There are a lot of things you can no longer find on xhitter because serious people are leaving that bit and misinformation filled hellhole.
- vGPU 3y ago
  Meduza is well known to be funded by the UK FCO project, known for funding propaganda projects such as the push for regime change in Syria, and receiving funding from NATO sources. Nor are they a “exiled Russian media”. They were founded in Latvia. Re: my account: I rarely post on the topic of politics, and my last comment on Russia/ukraine was over three weeks ago, and was a discussion on electronic warfare. Stop lying.
  - dragonwriter 3y ago
    > Nor are they a “exiled Russian media”. They were founded in Latvia. Founded by Russian journalists in Latvia after one of the founders were fired from a Russian media outlet for work unpopular with the Russian government, initially staffed by former employees of the same Russian media outlet. So, “exiled Russian media” is (if somewgat awkwardly phrased, “Russian exile media” would I think be more natural) reasonably accurate.
    - vGPU 3y ago
      Fired != exiled.

ac130kz 3y ago

They are obliged to serve unless they prove in court that their religion doesn't allow it or there's a serious medical condition. With that said, it's illegal to be delivered to an enlistment office, in such a deeply ill state as Russia though, the laws just don't work.