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Contrast this with all the news reports lately about Cruise vehicles being involved in traffic jams, accidents, and emergency vehicles, leading them to be force

Contrast this with all the news reports lately about Cruise vehicles being involved in traffic jams, accidents, and emergency vehicles, leading them to be forced to halve their # of cars on the road. “Comparable driving environment” indeed.

brucethemoose2 3y ago
Yeah, I think Cruise's social media need to be taken with a grain of salt.
BHSPitMonkey 3y ago
Those data points alone don't really help to reinforce an argument; In the same time period, human drivers caused accidents and reacted poorly to traffic jams / emergency vehicles in more instances, by a few orders of magnitude I'm sure. The only difference is that this is considered normal/unavoidable, and no one can order the human driver population to halve their activities.
kthejoker2 3y ago
I'm sorry, but how can you be this media illiterate in this day and age? You're making conclusions about things based on sensationalist news which - by definition - report on uncommon events? And extrapolate wildly based on 1 or 3 isolated incidents? "8 billion people didn't get murdered today" isn't news. "600,000 accident free miles driven last month" isn't news. In situations like this, only large scale data matters.
- thorncorona 3y ago
  Then you should also know quality of the data matters. Driving on empty streets and counting those as miles is like eating empty calories. Perhaps if you'd looked at the news reports you'd have a different opinion. Cruise vehicles all simultaneously stopped working near a music festival where they couldn't get a 4G connection, causing a traffic jam as the festival ended. All their incidents speak to a lack of safe engineering practices. In any case here's another HN thread today about Cruise being suspended. For obvious reasons. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38002752 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38002752

brucethemoose2 3y ago

Yeah, I think Cruise's social media need to be taken with a grain of salt.

BHSPitMonkey 3y ago

Those data points alone don't really help to reinforce an argument; In the same time period, human drivers caused accidents and reacted poorly to traffic jams / emergency vehicles in more instances, by a few orders of magnitude I'm sure. The only difference is that this is considered normal/unavoidable, and no one can order the human driver population to halve their activities.

kthejoker2 3y ago

I'm sorry, but how can you be this media illiterate in this day and age? You're making conclusions about things based on sensationalist news which - by definition - report on uncommon events? And extrapolate wildly based on 1 or 3 isolated incidents? "8 billion people didn't get murdered today" isn't news. "600,000 accident free miles driven last month" isn't news. In situations like this, only large scale data matters.

thorncorona 3y ago
Then you should also know quality of the data matters. Driving on empty streets and counting those as miles is like eating empty calories. Perhaps if you'd looked at the news reports you'd have a different opinion. Cruise vehicles all simultaneously stopped working near a music festival where they couldn't get a 4G connection, causing a traffic jam as the festival ended. All their incidents speak to a lack of safe engineering practices. In any case here's another HN thread today about Cruise being suspended. For obvious reasons. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38002752 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38002752