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Not to take away from anything you said, but the woke/PC mob are kind of scary right. They have the cultural supremacy part, like a non theistic religion where

Not to take away from anything you said, but the woke/PC mob are kind of scary right. They have the cultural supremacy part, like a non theistic religion where adherence to the tenets are required or you'll be excused. Those weird and creepy struggle sessions. Not to mention it is one side of the ongoing culture war. They have the rigid hierarchy known as the progressive stack that ranks people on their immutable characteristics rather than their individual merits. The might makes right comes from the antifa groups who ”by any means necessary” violently attack those who do not adhere to the tenets of the strange religion. As well as the control from the institutions such as universities where in faculty or students that don't adhere to the tenets are abused until they leave or are fired outright. So it's pretty close right? I'm sure there are a few other tenets of fascism that you left out for brevity which would preclude the woke/PC mob from the facist label but it's interesting and scary how close they come. I'm just glad they're not good with weapons, except for the Jon Brown Gun Club, for whom the addition of weapons seem to have a slightly deradicalizing effect

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When I say cultural supremacy, I mean the belief that your cultural group is superior to all others, and so its needs are rightfully to be prioritized even over the basic rights of other groups. Even the worse woke mobs I've heard about aren't advocating that, say, it is rightful for a hundred Republicans to go hungry to feed a trans person better or something, so I don't think they check this box. When I say rigid hierarchy, I mean an actual hierarchical organization where there are leaders giving orders and those below them executing and giving orders of their own down the hierarchy. There is nothing of the kind in woke spaces, they are in fact infamously sectarian and often spontaneously turn on yesterday's leaders for group think. So this box is also not checked. Might makes right refers to the explicit belief that as long as I can physically force some result, it was rightful and beyond reproach for me to have done so ("I conquered this land so I have proved I am stronger than you so I deserve it more than you"). Antifa may believe that punching nazis is justified, but they believe it is justified because of the evils of nazism, not because violence is self-justifying. Similarly, wielding organizational power against an individual accused of wrongthink is not an example of might makes right, at least not as long as the wrongthink isn't entirely arbitrarily invented for each individual. An example from actual fascist organizations sometimes is culling "weak" members by hazing rituals, where emotional or physical violence is intentionally inflicted simply to see if the subject can withstand it (this also helps in building the rigid hierarchies I mentioned above, as it tends to eliminate people who can't accept arbitrary orders). Again, this box remains un ticked. So no, I don't think any woke mobs I've heard about resemble fascist organizations. Which, again, is not to say they are good. Just because you're not a fascist doesn't mean you're a force for good in the world, it's entirely possible to be malevolent and dangerous without being fascistic.

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When I say cultural supremacy, I mean the belief that your cultural group is superior to all others, and so its needs are rightfully to be prioritized even over the basic rights of other groups. Even the worse woke mobs I've heard about aren't advocating that, say, it is rightful for a hundred Republicans to go hungry to feed a trans person better or something, so I don't think they check this box. When I say rigid hierarchy, I mean an actual hierarchical organization where there are leaders giving orders and those below them executing and giving orders of their own down the hierarchy. There is nothing of the kind in woke spaces, they are in fact infamously sectarian and often spontaneously turn on yesterday's leaders for group think. So this box is also not checked. Might makes right refers to the explicit belief that as long as I can physically force some result, it was rightful and beyond reproach for me to have done so ("I conquered this land so I have proved I am stronger than you so I deserve it more than you"). Antifa may believe that punching nazis is justified, but they believe it is justified because of the evils of nazism, not because violence is self-justifying. Similarly, wielding organizational power against an individual accused of wrongthink is not an example of might makes right, at least not as long as the wrongthink isn't entirely arbitrarily invented for each individual. An example from actual fascist organizations sometimes is culling "weak" members by hazing rituals, where emotional or physical violence is intentionally inflicted simply to see if the subject can withstand it (this also helps in building the rigid hierarchies I mentioned above, as it tends to eliminate people who can't accept arbitrary orders). Again, this box remains un ticked. So no, I don't think any woke mobs I've heard about resemble fascist organizations. Which, again, is not to say they are good. Just because you're not a fascist doesn't mean you're a force for good in the world, it's entirely possible to be malevolent and dangerous without being fascistic.