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Talking about "public" and "in-state" is not the point. College is mostly about the private institutions at a national level. That's where people would like to

Talking about "public" and "in-state" is not the point. College is mostly about the private institutions at a national level. That's where people would like to go.

screamingninja 3y ago
> Talking about "public" and "in-state" is not the point. I think the point is about access to higher education. > College is mostly about the private institutions at a national level. That's where people would like to go. Where people would "like to go" is highly subjective, and the statistics would wildly disagree with your statement on where people actually go.
- secabeen 3y ago
  > College is mostly about the private institutions at a national level. That's where people would like to go. Yeah, I think this is an uninformed take, and that many students never even consider a tier-1 private university. They attend their local university, or even a community college before transferring.
dgacmu 3y ago
Yes, but it's not where most actually go. 75% of degrees are awarded by public colleges and universities.
- heliodor 3y ago
  Maybe because most people can't afford the top private universities. But would have liked to go there.
  - maleldil 3y ago
    They'd like to go to top universities because they're the best. Being private is just one more filter that stops poor people from getting the education they deserve. Quality education can be public and free.
    - QuarterReptile 3y ago
      For my family, at least, private universities were much more affordable than (in-state) public...
  - dgacmu 3y ago
    It's more about capacity. There are hundreds more public universities than private. The money picture is ... messy and more complex. Some private universities are cheaper for low-income students than public schools (Harvard), some are drastically more expensive. And not all private universities are "better" than all public universities. Think Berkeley, UT, umich, etc. All fantastic and in many areas clobber many / most private universities. There are some obvious outliers at the very top-ranked schools but, statistically, almost nobody goes to them. It's messy and complex, but at the end of the day, the public universities educate drastically more people and generally do a good job of it; they have to be considered any time we talk about access to education.
  - e2le 3y ago
    I imagine prohibitive cost might act as a filter without explicit discrimination.

Talking about "public" and "in-state" is not the point. College is mostly about the private institutions at a national level. That's where people would like to go.

screamingninja 3y ago

> Talking about "public" and "in-state" is not the point. I think the point is about access to higher education. > College is mostly about the private institutions at a national level. That's where people would like to go. Where people would "like to go" is highly subjective, and the statistics would wildly disagree with your statement on where people actually go.

secabeen 3y ago
> College is mostly about the private institutions at a national level. That's where people would like to go. Yeah, I think this is an uninformed take, and that many students never even consider a tier-1 private university. They attend their local university, or even a community college before transferring.

dgacmu 3y ago

Yes, but it's not where most actually go. 75% of degrees are awarded by public colleges and universities.

heliodor 3y ago
Maybe because most people can't afford the top private universities. But would have liked to go there.
- maleldil 3y ago
  They'd like to go to top universities because they're the best. Being private is just one more filter that stops poor people from getting the education they deserve. Quality education can be public and free.
  - QuarterReptile 3y ago
    For my family, at least, private universities were much more affordable than (in-state) public...
- dgacmu 3y ago
  It's more about capacity. There are hundreds more public universities than private. The money picture is ... messy and more complex. Some private universities are cheaper for low-income students than public schools (Harvard), some are drastically more expensive. And not all private universities are "better" than all public universities. Think Berkeley, UT, umich, etc. All fantastic and in many areas clobber many / most private universities. There are some obvious outliers at the very top-ranked schools but, statistically, almost nobody goes to them. It's messy and complex, but at the end of the day, the public universities educate drastically more people and generally do a good job of it; they have to be considered any time we talk about access to education.
- e2le 3y ago
  I imagine prohibitive cost might act as a filter without explicit discrimination.