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The ads are awful on purpose, so people buy Premium. Then, once users pay for Premium, they can do the same as cable TV and _still_ sell ads. Easy 2x revenue.

elf25 3y ago
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colejohnson66 3y ago
Premium does not have ads. I know because I don’t see them. Sponsorships do not count because they’re placed by the creators themselves.
- rollcat 3y ago
  > Premium does not have ads. Yet. The keyword of the times seems to be enshittification, and the only companies that take a step back from it seem to be doing so just to double down on it the moment the outrage calms down.
  - colejohnson66 3y ago
    Well, when/if they add ads, I’ll reconsider my subscription. As of now, I pay to sustain YouTube’s business model and creators I like, and I’m rewarded with no ads.
    - superq 3y ago
      > pay to sustain YouTube’s business model and creators I like How much of your subscription goes to "creators you like"? 10 cents? 20 cents? How would you know? > I’m rewarded with no ads How is paying being rewarded?
      - foobazgt 3y ago
        Some creators have previously stated, here on HN, that they get a much bigger slice of YT premium. Sorry, I'm too lazy right now to Google a link for you.
      - ziml77 3y ago
        I know I heard a rough number at some point of the value of a Premium view vs an ad supported view. Can't find it without digging, but here's a source for them being a good amount more valuable https://youtu.be/-zt57TWkTF4?t=412 https://youtu.be/-zt57TWkTF4?t=412
      - paradox242 3y ago
        I have heard anecdotally from streamers that YouTube still pays better than any other platform all other things being equal (so long as you don't touch any topics that YouTube likes to regularly demonetize).
        superq 3y ago
        That's probably because Youtube has a scale in billions of viewers instead of the millions for most other platforms.
  - progmetaldev 3y ago
    Currently Premium really only gets you no ads, along with YouTube Music. If they start having ads, I don't really see that being a viable product. Of course they could stuff 12 ads in a 20 minute video, but I think they would lose most of their subscribers.
- greyface- 3y ago
  > Sponsorships do not count If the ad makes it to my eyeballs, it counts.

elf25 3y ago

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colejohnson66 3y ago

Premium does not have ads. I know because I don’t see them. Sponsorships do not count because they’re placed by the creators themselves.

rollcat 3y ago
> Premium does not have ads. Yet. The keyword of the times seems to be enshittification, and the only companies that take a step back from it seem to be doing so just to double down on it the moment the outrage calms down.
- colejohnson66 3y ago
  Well, when/if they add ads, I’ll reconsider my subscription. As of now, I pay to sustain YouTube’s business model and creators I like, and I’m rewarded with no ads.
  - superq 3y ago
    > pay to sustain YouTube’s business model and creators I like How much of your subscription goes to "creators you like"? 10 cents? 20 cents? How would you know? > I’m rewarded with no ads How is paying being rewarded?
    - foobazgt 3y ago
      Some creators have previously stated, here on HN, that they get a much bigger slice of YT premium. Sorry, I'm too lazy right now to Google a link for you.
    - ziml77 3y ago
      I know I heard a rough number at some point of the value of a Premium view vs an ad supported view. Can't find it without digging, but here's a source for them being a good amount more valuable https://youtu.be/-zt57TWkTF4?t=412 https://youtu.be/-zt57TWkTF4?t=412
    - paradox242 3y ago
      I have heard anecdotally from streamers that YouTube still pays better than any other platform all other things being equal (so long as you don't touch any topics that YouTube likes to regularly demonetize).
      - superq 3y ago
        That's probably because Youtube has a scale in billions of viewers instead of the millions for most other platforms.
- progmetaldev 3y ago
  Currently Premium really only gets you no ads, along with YouTube Music. If they start having ads, I don't really see that being a viable product. Of course they could stuff 12 ads in a 20 minute video, but I think they would lose most of their subscribers.
greyface- 3y ago
> Sponsorships do not count If the ad makes it to my eyeballs, it counts.