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Ok, so if Google is too big and YouTube is split away from Google... who exactly will pay for bandwidth, server and transcoder costs for all the adblocking free

by izacus 3y ago

Ok, so if Google is too big and YouTube is split away from Google... who exactly will pay for bandwidth, server and transcoder costs for all the adblocking freeloaders? If you ever tried to host videos yourself, you'll quickly see that it costs a stupid amount of money to manage. Why would a standalone YouTube LLC. allow anyone to access it with an adblocker and without subscription? (People seem to lose their mind on HN every time someone even tries to recommend something as ridicolous as paying for YouTube.)

RunningDroid 3y ago
> If you ever tried to host videos yourself, you'll quickly see that it costs a stupid amount of money to manage. Why would a standalone YouTube LLC. allow anyone to access it with an adblocker and without subscription? Why would anyone host a peertube instance? https://instances.joinpeertube.org https://instances.joinpeertube.org
yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago
> Ok, so if Google is too big and YouTube is split away from Google... who exactly will pay for bandwidth, server and transcoder costs for all the adblocking freeloaders? If a "business" can only exist when artificially propped up, should it exist? > People seem to lose their mind on HN every time someone even tries to recommend something as ridicolous as paying for YouTube. People on HN also regularly endorse Nebula, so it isn't paying that's the problem (if we pretend HN is a monolith).
13415 3y ago
Either Youtube has a viable business model (e.g. with subscriptions) or they don't. If they don't have one, that's certainly not my problem. I'll use Youtube with an ad blocker as long as it works and won't use it otherwise. It's not rocket science.
echelon 3y ago
An independent YouTube would figure it out. Netflix works. Facebook works. Ad-supported video streaming works. A standalone YouTube would remove the insane perverse incentives and double dipping that Google has wrought in their ownership of YouTube.
pixxel 3y ago
P2P. They could have implemented it years ago but instead prefer to control humanity’s video library and take on the full financial burden. Some people don’t want to pay Google to continue to harvest their data, and they despise the parasitical corporation.
- ThatPlayer 3y ago
  And just like how people refuse to watch ads, they'll refuse to "donate their storage, bandwidth, and battery life to Google". With everyone else on phones and laptops, P2P will never be mainstream.

by izacus 3y ago

RunningDroid 3y ago

> If you ever tried to host videos yourself, you'll quickly see that it costs a stupid amount of money to manage. Why would a standalone YouTube LLC. allow anyone to access it with an adblocker and without subscription? Why would anyone host a peertube instance? https://instances.joinpeertube.org https://instances.joinpeertube.org

yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago

> Ok, so if Google is too big and YouTube is split away from Google... who exactly will pay for bandwidth, server and transcoder costs for all the adblocking freeloaders? If a "business" can only exist when artificially propped up, should it exist? > People seem to lose their mind on HN every time someone even tries to recommend something as ridicolous as paying for YouTube. People on HN also regularly endorse Nebula, so it isn't paying that's the problem (if we pretend HN is a monolith).

13415 3y ago

Either Youtube has a viable business model (e.g. with subscriptions) or they don't. If they don't have one, that's certainly not my problem. I'll use Youtube with an ad blocker as long as it works and won't use it otherwise. It's not rocket science.

echelon 3y ago

An independent YouTube would figure it out. Netflix works. Facebook works. Ad-supported video streaming works. A standalone YouTube would remove the insane perverse incentives and double dipping that Google has wrought in their ownership of YouTube.

pixxel 3y ago

P2P. They could have implemented it years ago but instead prefer to control humanity’s video library and take on the full financial burden. Some people don’t want to pay Google to continue to harvest their data, and they despise the parasitical corporation.

ThatPlayer 3y ago
And just like how people refuse to watch ads, they'll refuse to "donate their storage, bandwidth, and battery life to Google". With everyone else on phones and laptops, P2P will never be mainstream.