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I wouldn't mind paying for YouTube if its subscription cost was anywhere close to reasonable.

by ssl232 3y ago

bad_user 3y ago
I'm paying $8.30 / month for the Family option. That's like 2 or 3 coffees. In other countries this is more expensive, but it's adjusted for local buying power. Both you and the parent simply come up with reasons to avoid paying, getting the service for free. No matter how you look at it, what you're doing is immoral, because if everyone did it, YouTube would be permanently paywalled and placed under DRM. You're a privileged individual that prefers to be subsidized by those that pay or that watch ads.
- JTyQZSnP3cQGa8B 3y ago
  > That's like 2 or 3 coffees Expensive coffee at Starbucks which I would never buy. With $10 I can buy coffee for 3 months. It’s way too expensive for me. I also consider every form of advertising to be brainwashing. Last but not least, I watch 1 YouTube video per month, so you would have to adapt your scenario for me to be interested in a subscription.
  - guraf 3y ago
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- i8comments 3y ago
  A coffee costs 30 cents.
- franczesko 3y ago
  There's nothing immoral about blocking ads. Avoiding paying taxes might be, yet Google does it anyway.
  - bad_user 3y ago
    Blocking ads is morally OK only as long as that's the only way to consume that content, and as long as you're not trying to block anti-ad-block warnings. If there's a reasonably priced subscription available (or another business model), and if the publisher doesn't want your eyeballs while you have an adblocker active, there's no argument you can make for the morality of adblocking. It's your computer, you can be selective about what you execute on it, but the publisher should also be free to reject your visit. Blocking YouTube's adblock detection legitimizes all the changes that Google is making in Chrome, being why we can't have nice things. And it's similar to extensions designed to workaround paywalls, or software piracy. Sooner or later adblocking will become illegal.
wintermutestwin 3y ago
I wouldn't mind paying for youtube if I wasn't already paying for it because they are stealing my data.
- izacus 3y ago
  Noone is stealing anything from you, you just made this up to feel better about your freeloading. If you gave a shit, you wouldn't use YouTube.

I wouldn't mind paying for YouTube if its subscription cost was anywhere close to reasonable.

by ssl232 3y ago

I wouldn't mind paying for YouTube if its subscription cost was anywhere close to reasonable.

I'm paying $8.30 / month for the Family option. That's like 2 or 3 coffees. In other countries this is more expensive, but it's adjusted for local buying power. Both you and the parent simply come up with reasons to avoid paying, getting the service for free. No matter how you look at it, what you're doing is immoral, because if everyone did it, YouTube would be permanently paywalled and placed under DRM. You're a privileged individual that prefers to be subsidized by those that pay or that watch ads.

JTyQZSnP3cQGa8B 3y ago
> That's like 2 or 3 coffees Expensive coffee at Starbucks which I would never buy. With $10 I can buy coffee for 3 months. It’s way too expensive for me. I also consider every form of advertising to be brainwashing. Last but not least, I watch 1 YouTube video per month, so you would have to adapt your scenario for me to be interested in a subscription.
- guraf 3y ago
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i8comments 3y ago
A coffee costs 30 cents.
franczesko 3y ago
There's nothing immoral about blocking ads. Avoiding paying taxes might be, yet Google does it anyway.
- bad_user 3y ago
  Blocking ads is morally OK only as long as that's the only way to consume that content, and as long as you're not trying to block anti-ad-block warnings. If there's a reasonably priced subscription available (or another business model), and if the publisher doesn't want your eyeballs while you have an adblocker active, there's no argument you can make for the morality of adblocking. It's your computer, you can be selective about what you execute on it, but the publisher should also be free to reject your visit. Blocking YouTube's adblock detection legitimizes all the changes that Google is making in Chrome, being why we can't have nice things. And it's similar to extensions designed to workaround paywalls, or software piracy. Sooner or later adblocking will become illegal.

wintermutestwin 3y ago

I wouldn't mind paying for youtube if I wasn't already paying for it because they are stealing my data.

izacus 3y ago
Noone is stealing anything from you, you just made this up to feel better about your freeloading. If you gave a shit, you wouldn't use YouTube.