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"Colombia due to its size and war is more uneven in the development of infrastructure." Colombia has parts that remind you of Miami. I guess the drug money had

"Colombia due to its size and war is more uneven in the development of infrastructure." Colombia has parts that remind you of Miami. I guess the drug money had to go somewhere :-) But Colombia IS an amazing place. Its culture, people, history, food and extremely diverse climate, it just overwhelms you. From the Caribbean, to the mountains to the Amazon, there are few places in the world with such a diverse climate. Medellin is the city of eternal spring. And Bogota, the district of Candelaria, I always found it a magical place. But I think nobody likes Bogota except of me. T-Shirts worn by the tourist information: "Colombia, the only risk is that you want to stay"

ReptileMan 3y ago
I adore Bogota. And when you are on top of Montserrat and see the other peaks - as if you are in the Tolkien's Misty Mountains
ElongatedMusket 3y ago
Every person I've spoken to who visited Colombia warned of two things: 1) There is a very large homeless/beggar population in the cities, who prey on tourists. 2) If you like to explore countries beyond typical tourism, it's safer to do this with a native Colombian that you trust, who knows the dangerous places. Oddly when I speak to Colombians, they refute both of these warnings every time. I'm not sure if it's a cultural thing to downplay danger or discomfort, but those are #1 on my travel priority list.
- Beijinger 3y ago
  "1) There is a very large homeless/beggar population in the cities, who prey on tourists" They had this long time ago, they now have this again. This is mainly caused by poor Venezuelan immigrants. #1 on my travel priority list. Possibly. But I think we traveled in very different places. Forget Somalia, try to travel in Venezuela (hint: Dont!)
- CPLX 3y ago
  Bogota is comparable to a large American city in terms of safety, visible homelessness, and so on. The rich neighborhoods feel like suburban California. Like most of Latin America the very poor areas are beyond anything you’re likely to see in the US but unless you’re the kind of person who’s also afraid of Miami or New York City you’d have nothing to worry about.
  - gfarah 3y ago
    Related: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_homicide_rate https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_homicide_r...
    - o_____________o 3y ago
      Many countries that aren't systematized to the same degree as advanced economies don't report the true level of crime, and those who rely on tourism have additional incentive not to. Much of Colombia is palpably dangerous and overflowing with prostitution, even minors, while cops look the other way.
      - gfarah 3y ago
        I shared global per-capita murder rates by city, a notoriously difficult-to-falsify metric. I verified the data's reliability by cross-referencing Wikipedia (Statista) with official UN and OECD sources. Regarding prostitution in Colombia, it's legalized since 2016, which may explain its greater visibility. Colombia's major exports are commodities; while tourism has grown, it's not the primary export.
- jstarfish 3y ago
  > Oddly when I speak to Colombians, they refute both of these warnings every time. I'm not sure if it's a cultural thing to downplay danger or discomfort It's just a practical bias. You see this everywhere on Earth. Natives aren't the victims of the crimes alleged, so since they don't see it, they assume it's not actually happening as often as reported. For example, #2-- I've heard the same about Brazil, then heard the denials by Brazilians, and shortly after that there was that tourist couple who got murdered when their GPS routed them through a slum. Tourists anywhere are conspicuous, vulnerable and lucrative prey. The #1 travel safety advice anywhere is never letting yourself appear lost or confused. Hence, the advice to only travel off-course with a local you trust.
- alisonatwork 3y ago
  This advice sounds a bit out of date. I spent 3 months cycling solo through Colombia a year or two back and it was fine. Lots of villages to stop at, most of them have places to eat and stay the night. To be fair I neither went deep into the jungle nor spent any time in either Medellin or Bogota, but there's plenty of countryside to visit along the Rio Magdalena that is pretty safe.
  - Beijinger 3y ago
    It might be back up to date due to the Venezuelan immigrants (that don't have money). I have been there at least 10 times. Never hat any issue with counterfeit money. Last time I got stuffed with it. Recommended, rafting in the jungle. Loved it: https://expeditioncolombia.com/tours/rafting/rafting-day-trip-rio-verde/ https://expeditioncolombia.com/tours/rafting/rafting-day-tri...

ReptileMan 3y ago

I adore Bogota. And when you are on top of Montserrat and see the other peaks - as if you are in the Tolkien's Misty Mountains

ElongatedMusket 3y ago

Every person I've spoken to who visited Colombia warned of two things: 1) There is a very large homeless/beggar population in the cities, who prey on tourists. 2) If you like to explore countries beyond typical tourism, it's safer to do this with a native Colombian that you trust, who knows the dangerous places. Oddly when I speak to Colombians, they refute both of these warnings every time. I'm not sure if it's a cultural thing to downplay danger or discomfort, but those are #1 on my travel priority list.

Beijinger 3y ago
"1) There is a very large homeless/beggar population in the cities, who prey on tourists" They had this long time ago, they now have this again. This is mainly caused by poor Venezuelan immigrants. #1 on my travel priority list. Possibly. But I think we traveled in very different places. Forget Somalia, try to travel in Venezuela (hint: Dont!)
CPLX 3y ago
Bogota is comparable to a large American city in terms of safety, visible homelessness, and so on. The rich neighborhoods feel like suburban California. Like most of Latin America the very poor areas are beyond anything you’re likely to see in the US but unless you’re the kind of person who’s also afraid of Miami or New York City you’d have nothing to worry about.
- gfarah 3y ago
  Related: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_homicide_rate https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_homicide_r...
  - o_____________o 3y ago
    Many countries that aren't systematized to the same degree as advanced economies don't report the true level of crime, and those who rely on tourism have additional incentive not to. Much of Colombia is palpably dangerous and overflowing with prostitution, even minors, while cops look the other way.
    - gfarah 3y ago
      I shared global per-capita murder rates by city, a notoriously difficult-to-falsify metric. I verified the data's reliability by cross-referencing Wikipedia (Statista) with official UN and OECD sources. Regarding prostitution in Colombia, it's legalized since 2016, which may explain its greater visibility. Colombia's major exports are commodities; while tourism has grown, it's not the primary export.
jstarfish 3y ago
> Oddly when I speak to Colombians, they refute both of these warnings every time. I'm not sure if it's a cultural thing to downplay danger or discomfort It's just a practical bias. You see this everywhere on Earth. Natives aren't the victims of the crimes alleged, so since they don't see it, they assume it's not actually happening as often as reported. For example, #2-- I've heard the same about Brazil, then heard the denials by Brazilians, and shortly after that there was that tourist couple who got murdered when their GPS routed them through a slum. Tourists anywhere are conspicuous, vulnerable and lucrative prey. The #1 travel safety advice anywhere is never letting yourself appear lost or confused. Hence, the advice to only travel off-course with a local you trust.
alisonatwork 3y ago
This advice sounds a bit out of date. I spent 3 months cycling solo through Colombia a year or two back and it was fine. Lots of villages to stop at, most of them have places to eat and stay the night. To be fair I neither went deep into the jungle nor spent any time in either Medellin or Bogota, but there's plenty of countryside to visit along the Rio Magdalena that is pretty safe.
- Beijinger 3y ago
  It might be back up to date due to the Venezuelan immigrants (that don't have money). I have been there at least 10 times. Never hat any issue with counterfeit money. Last time I got stuffed with it. Recommended, rafting in the jungle. Loved it: https://expeditioncolombia.com/tours/rafting/rafting-day-trip-rio-verde/ https://expeditioncolombia.com/tours/rafting/rafting-day-tri...