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I begrudginly respected the imposed scarcity of urbit if only to fund developement but yeah I was in the same boat, "oh good. someone already did it, I can just

I begrudginly respected the imposed scarcity of urbit if only to fund developement but yeah I was in the same boat, "oh good. someone already did it, I can just pay $15/month and relax" but unfortunately the peer discovery for installing apps is fragile AF Holochain is unfortunately named since its about as much of a blockchain as git is (merkle tree, no proof of work mechanism) but they obscured it willingly by trying to integrate ETH [0] as a way to pay peers for cloud capacity / capitalize on the crypto hype. [0] https://holo.host/host/ https://holo.host/host/ edit: "Liquidity comes from shared values" this is an interesting axiom, I'll have to think about that. I've always held that the neat thing about money is it allows collaboration between groups with opposing values, because at least we have one motive in common

__MatrixMan__ 3y ago
I realize that this is a hot take, but I think that > money ... allows collaboration between groups with opposing values, because at least we have one motive in common ...only really holds if our common motive is that we both don't want to be killed by some Leviathan type thing (originally this a Roman soldier who would kill you if you didn't trade Caesar-face coinage above its buillion value). Money today is just a proxy for the same old violence as before. This places a cap on how legitimate money can be. The have-nots, should they ever manage to coordinate, would be better off turning their backs on it. When a rich nation shows up and starts throwing money around, you can be sure that the poorer nation is getting screwed. Probably there's some kind of violence hanging around ensuring that they don't act up. See the history of US policy in South America in the 70's for more on this sort of thing. If we want to move past all of this yucky stuff I'm talking about, we need to your acceptance of my money synonymous with me proving to you that I've done something that benefitted you specifically. As it is now, it's just proof that my activities somehow benefit a bank somewhere.

__MatrixMan__ 3y ago

I realize that this is a hot take, but I think that > money ... allows collaboration between groups with opposing values, because at least we have one motive in common ...only really holds if our common motive is that we both don't want to be killed by some Leviathan type thing (originally this a Roman soldier who would kill you if you didn't trade Caesar-face coinage above its buillion value). Money today is just a proxy for the same old violence as before. This places a cap on how legitimate money can be. The have-nots, should they ever manage to coordinate, would be better off turning their backs on it. When a rich nation shows up and starts throwing money around, you can be sure that the poorer nation is getting screwed. Probably there's some kind of violence hanging around ensuring that they don't act up. See the history of US policy in South America in the 70's for more on this sort of thing. If we want to move past all of this yucky stuff I'm talking about, we need to your acceptance of my money synonymous with me proving to you that I've done something that benefitted you specifically. As it is now, it's just proof that my activities somehow benefit a bank somewhere.