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Then reclamation hasn't started.

justinator 3y ago
You're never going to reclaim it. The water that flows down from that pass will be poisoned by heavy metal indefinitely. There's a cost to mining, it's not cheap.
- 4RealFreedom 3y ago
  I feel like you are moving goalposts here. I can only find information around old mines - all new/operational mines are subject to environmental oversight. Are you saying that operational mines are leaking heavy metal into drinking water?
  - justinator 3y ago
    I am saying that for this mine to exist, you need now - and IN PERPETUITY - treat the water that flows down hill. To me, that is in no way shape or form: "reclaimed".
    - 4RealFreedom 3y ago
      That is not the definition of 'reclaimed' (I think you meant reclamation) - you are talking about environmental oversight. Do you think mines today are missing that in the US?
      - justinator 3y ago
        >That is not the definition of 'reclaimed' (I think you meant reclamation) Reclamation is the noun form of the verb to reclaim. Do you think mines today are missing that in the US? I think the cost of mining is a long-tail problem. Just throwing some top soil over a mine isn't solving many of the problems a mine introduces. One of the examples I'm giving is heavy metal pollution of important-to-human water ways. In general, mines in the US have a very piss poor track record of dealing with long term environmental issues. I think one be a fool for believing the greenwashing marketing of a huge multi-national mining company, or their honest intent to put the land back in a state - or better - than what it was. That is a fantasy. As they reap enormous profits from the mining, I would want you think of who is actually bearing that cost.
        4RealFreedom 3y ago
        Mining companies have to solve the problem of run-off as part of the Clean Water Act[1]. Reclamation is the process of 'fixing' the landscape. There are countless benefits from doing this including carbon storage[2]. "mines in the US have a very piss poor track record of dealing with long term environmental issues" - you are conflating old, abandoned mines with current mines. Current mining processes deal with everything you've listed. We need mining. We should be mining in the US for a variety of reasons. If that can be done responsibly, why wouldn't you want that? 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clean_Water_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clean_Water_Act 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mine_reclamation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mine_reclamation

You're never going to reclaim it. The water that flows down from that pass will be poisoned by heavy metal indefinitely. There's a cost to mining, it's not cheap.

4RealFreedom 3y ago
I feel like you are moving goalposts here. I can only find information around old mines - all new/operational mines are subject to environmental oversight. Are you saying that operational mines are leaking heavy metal into drinking water?
- justinator 3y ago
  I am saying that for this mine to exist, you need now - and IN PERPETUITY - treat the water that flows down hill. To me, that is in no way shape or form: "reclaimed".
  - 4RealFreedom 3y ago
    That is not the definition of 'reclaimed' (I think you meant reclamation) - you are talking about environmental oversight. Do you think mines today are missing that in the US?
    - justinator 3y ago
      >That is not the definition of 'reclaimed' (I think you meant reclamation) Reclamation is the noun form of the verb to reclaim. Do you think mines today are missing that in the US? I think the cost of mining is a long-tail problem. Just throwing some top soil over a mine isn't solving many of the problems a mine introduces. One of the examples I'm giving is heavy metal pollution of important-to-human water ways. In general, mines in the US have a very piss poor track record of dealing with long term environmental issues. I think one be a fool for believing the greenwashing marketing of a huge multi-national mining company, or their honest intent to put the land back in a state - or better - than what it was. That is a fantasy. As they reap enormous profits from the mining, I would want you think of who is actually bearing that cost.
      - 4RealFreedom 3y ago
        Mining companies have to solve the problem of run-off as part of the Clean Water Act[1]. Reclamation is the process of 'fixing' the landscape. There are countless benefits from doing this including carbon storage[2]. "mines in the US have a very piss poor track record of dealing with long term environmental issues" - you are conflating old, abandoned mines with current mines. Current mining processes deal with everything you've listed. We need mining. We should be mining in the US for a variety of reasons. If that can be done responsibly, why wouldn't you want that? 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clean_Water_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clean_Water_Act 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mine_reclamation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mine_reclamation