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> However, the issue is that exhibit B is whole rows of apartment blocks hollowed out, visibly mangled or even levelled out by Israeli air strikes. It’s like y

by _kbh_ 3y ago

> However, the issue is that exhibit B is whole rows of apartment blocks hollowed out, visibly mangled or even levelled out by Israeli air strikes. It’s like your exactly describing what the Russians did to Bakhmut. https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2023/may/18/stark-before-and-after-images-reveal-the-obliteration-of-bakhmut https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2023/may/18/stark-b...

thriftwy 3y ago
As it was already noticed, it was not due to unannounced airstrikes in Bakhmut but due to ground offensive. Any civilians could and should have been evacuated by then, or at least took cover. If we will seee ground offensive in Gaza, the picture will likely be the same but on larger scale. This is on top of air strikes damage, for which the population in these blocks could not prepare.
- _kbh_ 3y ago
  > As it was already noticed, it was not due to unannounced airstrikes in Bakhmut but due to ground offensive. Any civilians could and should have been evacuated by then, or at least took cover. Sure, So like the Dnipro apartment block strike that was from a Russian Kh-22 and flattened part of the building. Here's a photo. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cf/Dnipro_after_Russian_missile_attack%2C_2023-01-14_%2804-01%29.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cf/Dnipro_a...
  - thriftwy 3y ago
    Again, this is one missile (maybe it was shot down by AA rocket, or just went off course). And most of the building is still standing. The point of this launch was likely some military target. Compare that to Palestinean videos where a dozen of blocks are levelled indiscriminately. Also note that it's just been two weeks, as opposed to almost two years. Two years of fighting which resulted in just some cherry-picks.
    - _kbh_ 3y ago
      > Again, this is one missile (maybe it was shot down by AA rocket, or just went off course). The amount of precision guided missiles that we have seen hit civilian targets makes me think this is just as likely to be an intentional targeting as it is “flying off course”. Also it would be an AA missile not rocket, rockets are unguided. > The point of this launch was likely some military target. You have no way of knowing this, and one could say literally the same thing about the Israeli strikes.

by _kbh_ 3y ago

thriftwy 3y ago

As it was already noticed, it was not due to unannounced airstrikes in Bakhmut but due to ground offensive. Any civilians could and should have been evacuated by then, or at least took cover. If we will seee ground offensive in Gaza, the picture will likely be the same but on larger scale. This is on top of air strikes damage, for which the population in these blocks could not prepare.

_kbh_ 3y ago
> As it was already noticed, it was not due to unannounced airstrikes in Bakhmut but due to ground offensive. Any civilians could and should have been evacuated by then, or at least took cover. Sure, So like the Dnipro apartment block strike that was from a Russian Kh-22 and flattened part of the building. Here's a photo. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cf/Dnipro_after_Russian_missile_attack%2C_2023-01-14_%2804-01%29.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cf/Dnipro_a...
- thriftwy 3y ago
  Again, this is one missile (maybe it was shot down by AA rocket, or just went off course). And most of the building is still standing. The point of this launch was likely some military target. Compare that to Palestinean videos where a dozen of blocks are levelled indiscriminately. Also note that it's just been two weeks, as opposed to almost two years. Two years of fighting which resulted in just some cherry-picks.
  - _kbh_ 3y ago
    > Again, this is one missile (maybe it was shot down by AA rocket, or just went off course). The amount of precision guided missiles that we have seen hit civilian targets makes me think this is just as likely to be an intentional targeting as it is “flying off course”. Also it would be an AA missile not rocket, rockets are unguided. > The point of this launch was likely some military target. You have no way of knowing this, and one could say literally the same thing about the Israeli strikes.