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IITs are prestigious institutions. They’re not OKish institutions in the slightest.

by pietro72ohboy 3y ago

ilrwbwrkhv 3y ago
The are not even top 100 in the world. They are OKish.
- phist_mcgee 3y ago
  Not even top 100? Total waste of time then.
  - p1esk 3y ago
    I’d say if it’s not top-10 no one cares if you went there. I went to a top-20 school and it does not look impressive on my resume.
- magnio 3y ago
  Those university rankings are rubbish. Sure, they tell you MIT and Stanford are one of the best schools in the world; like anyone would need a ranking for that. Those rankings not only consider teaching quality to be the sole factor, but also infrastructure, research output, financial status, and degree of internationalization. It is as gameable as gacha game rankings. For more sobering examples: Universiti Malaya (UM) and City University of Hong Kong ranks higher than Brown University. University of Copenhagen, University of Waterloo, and Rice University are all outside of top 100, so I guess we can call them OKish (all according to QS 2024).
thelastgallon 3y ago
Let's look at one US University, UC Berkeley. 26 faculty Nobel Prize winners and 35 alumni winners. The current faculty includes 262 American Academy of Arts and Sciences Fellows, three Fields Medalists, 77 Fulbright Scholars, 139 Guggenheim Fellows, 90 members of the National Academy of Engineering, 144 members of the National Academy of Sciences,[81] ten Nobel Prize winners, four Pulitzer Prize winners, 125 Sloan Fellows, 8 Wolf Prize winners and 1 Pritzker Prize winner. Or, lets take CalTech with a similar size enrollment (in the thousands): As of October 2022, Caltech has 46 Nobel laureates to its name awarded to 30 alumni (26 graduates and 4 postdocs), including 5 Caltech professors who are also alumni. > IITs are prestigious institutions. They’re not OKish institutions in the slightest. They aren't. They are a filter for a few thousand out of 1.4 billion people. Yet, all the IITs put together produce nothing compared to the output of one US University. > 99% end up writing Java code for Wall Street or work for ad-tech. I doubt they are pushing the boundaries of science.
- dragonwriter 3y ago
  > Let's look at one US University, UC Berkeley. [...] > Or, lets take CalTech with a similar size enrollment (in the thousands) [...] Caltech student population is a little over 2,200, mostly graduate students. UC Berkeley is over 45,000, about 3/4 undergraduates. They don't have "similar enrollments".
  - thelastgallon 3y ago
    i'm not comparing CalTech vs UCB, I'm comparing both to IITs. IITs historically had 2K - 3K enrollment (5 IITs), recently this seems to have changed with a lot more IITs.

IITs are prestigious institutions. They’re not OKish institutions in the slightest.

ilrwbwrkhv 3y ago

The are not even top 100 in the world. They are OKish.

phist_mcgee 3y ago
Not even top 100? Total waste of time then.
- p1esk 3y ago
  I’d say if it’s not top-10 no one cares if you went there. I went to a top-20 school and it does not look impressive on my resume.
magnio 3y ago
Those university rankings are rubbish. Sure, they tell you MIT and Stanford are one of the best schools in the world; like anyone would need a ranking for that. Those rankings not only consider teaching quality to be the sole factor, but also infrastructure, research output, financial status, and degree of internationalization. It is as gameable as gacha game rankings. For more sobering examples: Universiti Malaya (UM) and City University of Hong Kong ranks higher than Brown University. University of Copenhagen, University of Waterloo, and Rice University are all outside of top 100, so I guess we can call them OKish (all according to QS 2024).

thelastgallon 3y ago

Let's look at one US University, UC Berkeley. 26 faculty Nobel Prize winners and 35 alumni winners. The current faculty includes 262 American Academy of Arts and Sciences Fellows, three Fields Medalists, 77 Fulbright Scholars, 139 Guggenheim Fellows, 90 members of the National Academy of Engineering, 144 members of the National Academy of Sciences,[81] ten Nobel Prize winners, four Pulitzer Prize winners, 125 Sloan Fellows, 8 Wolf Prize winners and 1 Pritzker Prize winner. Or, lets take CalTech with a similar size enrollment (in the thousands): As of October 2022, Caltech has 46 Nobel laureates to its name awarded to 30 alumni (26 graduates and 4 postdocs), including 5 Caltech professors who are also alumni. > IITs are prestigious institutions. They’re not OKish institutions in the slightest. They aren't. They are a filter for a few thousand out of 1.4 billion people. Yet, all the IITs put together produce nothing compared to the output of one US University. > 99% end up writing Java code for Wall Street or work for ad-tech. I doubt they are pushing the boundaries of science.

dragonwriter 3y ago
> Let's look at one US University, UC Berkeley. [...] > Or, lets take CalTech with a similar size enrollment (in the thousands) [...] Caltech student population is a little over 2,200, mostly graduate students. UC Berkeley is over 45,000, about 3/4 undergraduates. They don't have "similar enrollments".
- thelastgallon 3y ago
  i'm not comparing CalTech vs UCB, I'm comparing both to IITs. IITs historically had 2K - 3K enrollment (5 IITs), recently this seems to have changed with a lot more IITs.