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Yeah, I absolutely hate it. MacOS is the only system with sane handling of copying and pasting, because it doesn't have that obnoxious thing and it doesn't over

Yeah, I absolutely hate it. MacOS is the only system with sane handling of copying and pasting, because it doesn't have that obnoxious thing and it doesn't overload the ctrl key. Command+C doesn't interfere with ctrl+C in terminals. Copying should always be deliberate, not something that blasts out your clipboard when you click in the wrong place and select something unintentionally. And middle click is for opening tabs.

lolinder 3y ago
> not something that blasts out your clipboard when you click in the wrong place and select something unintentionally This isn't helped by the fact that the mainstream desktop OSes don't have proper clipboard managers bundled by default. Accidentally copying something isn't as big a deal when you have the most recent 200 items you've copied in an easily searchable widget.
- charcircuit 3y ago
  Windows has clipboard history
  - lolinder 3y ago
    Oh, I missed that! I've been mostly on Linux since before Windows 10.
    - charcircuit 3y ago
      FYI Window's clipbord history has better security than what desktop Linux has. For example desktop Linux currently has no way to copy an image and specify that the contents are sensitive and should not be added to the history. Poor API design and the inability for APIs like the clipboard to evolve are part of the reason why desktop Linux's security keeps falling behind other operating systems.
      - arp242 3y ago
        How do you copy something without adding it to the clipboard history? I can't find how to do that? Either way, I'm pretty sure it could be added if someone cared enough, e.g. by adding a new target. It just seems to me that if someone is able to access your clipboard history you've lost already, and the entire feature seems more of a convenience thing than a security thing.
        charcircuit 3y ago
        >How do you copy something without adding it to the clipboard history? Win32: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/dataxchg/clipboard-formats#cloud-clipboard-and-clipboard-history-formats https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/dataxchg/cli... WinRT: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/uwp/api/windows.applicationmodel.datatransfer.clipboardcontentoptions?view=winrt-19041 https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/uwp/api/windows.applicatio... >Either way, I'm pretty sure it could be added if someone cared enough That's the problem. Ironically, not enough people care about improving the security and privacy of desktop Linux. >It just seems to me that if someone is able to access your clipboard history you've lost already Do you not see how it could be problematic if sensitive things were logged and persisted to disk? Edit: Some clipboard managers on Linux do have an undocumented way to do this by adding an additional format to what's being copied with a MIME type set to x-kde-passwordManagerHint and data set to "secret".
        arp242 3y ago
        Most clipboard managers don't store to disk but in memory, AFAIK anyway. And your link just shows some programmatic access? How do I access that as a user when I press Ctrl+C? I suppose it's "useful" for things like password managers, but since anything can read the clipboard anyway it's a very limited protection. If something is so sensitive that you're using that special programmatic way of storing it then you should be using the clipboard but an actually secure mechanism.
0xDEFACED 3y ago
> And middle click is for opening tabs. Learning that you can middle click on the back/forward/refresh buttons to open the previous/next/current page (respectively) in a new tab was a game changer for me
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wkat4242 3y ago
This is a nice thing about macOS yes, not having to use a different key in terminal. However it's a nightmare when you use a mix of OSes every day as I do :(

lolinder 3y ago

> not something that blasts out your clipboard when you click in the wrong place and select something unintentionally This isn't helped by the fact that the mainstream desktop OSes don't have proper clipboard managers bundled by default. Accidentally copying something isn't as big a deal when you have the most recent 200 items you've copied in an easily searchable widget.

charcircuit 3y ago
Windows has clipboard history
- lolinder 3y ago
  Oh, I missed that! I've been mostly on Linux since before Windows 10.
  - charcircuit 3y ago
    FYI Window's clipbord history has better security than what desktop Linux has. For example desktop Linux currently has no way to copy an image and specify that the contents are sensitive and should not be added to the history. Poor API design and the inability for APIs like the clipboard to evolve are part of the reason why desktop Linux's security keeps falling behind other operating systems.
    - arp242 3y ago
      How do you copy something without adding it to the clipboard history? I can't find how to do that? Either way, I'm pretty sure it could be added if someone cared enough, e.g. by adding a new target. It just seems to me that if someone is able to access your clipboard history you've lost already, and the entire feature seems more of a convenience thing than a security thing.
      - charcircuit 3y ago
        >How do you copy something without adding it to the clipboard history? Win32: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/dataxchg/clipboard-formats#cloud-clipboard-and-clipboard-history-formats https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/dataxchg/cli... WinRT: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/uwp/api/windows.applicationmodel.datatransfer.clipboardcontentoptions?view=winrt-19041 https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/uwp/api/windows.applicatio... >Either way, I'm pretty sure it could be added if someone cared enough That's the problem. Ironically, not enough people care about improving the security and privacy of desktop Linux. >It just seems to me that if someone is able to access your clipboard history you've lost already Do you not see how it could be problematic if sensitive things were logged and persisted to disk? Edit: Some clipboard managers on Linux do have an undocumented way to do this by adding an additional format to what's being copied with a MIME type set to x-kde-passwordManagerHint and data set to "secret".
        arp242 3y ago
        Most clipboard managers don't store to disk but in memory, AFAIK anyway. And your link just shows some programmatic access? How do I access that as a user when I press Ctrl+C? I suppose it's "useful" for things like password managers, but since anything can read the clipboard anyway it's a very limited protection. If something is so sensitive that you're using that special programmatic way of storing it then you should be using the clipboard but an actually secure mechanism.

0xDEFACED 3y ago

> And middle click is for opening tabs. Learning that you can middle click on the back/forward/refresh buttons to open the previous/next/current page (respectively) in a new tab was a game changer for me

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wkat4242 3y ago

This is a nice thing about macOS yes, not having to use a different key in terminal. However it's a nightmare when you use a mix of OSes every day as I do :(