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For years, Gao Kao has been the only route for tens of thousands Chinese people in poverty to change their fate. It’s interesting if we can run an metaverse sim
by whoevercares 3y ago
For years, Gao Kao has been the only route for tens of thousands Chinese people in poverty to change their fate. It’s interesting if we can run an metaverse simulation one day to see whether the system in US will produce better or more fair results for poor people
- ilrwbwrkhv 3y agoIndia also has a similar tough civil service test called UPSC. I have a cousin married to one dude in India who passed the test and is some sort of high official there. Apparently people study for this and another stem exam called IIT which are for some OKish colleges but the entrance rate seem to be crazy because of how many people sit for these exams, not that the colleges are any good.
- pietro72ohboy 3y agoIITs are prestigious institutions. They’re not OKish institutions in the slightest.
- ilrwbwrkhv 3y agoThe are not even top 100 in the world. They are OKish.
- phist_mcgee 3y agoNot even top 100? Total waste of time then.
- p1esk 3y agoI’d say if it’s not top-10 no one cares if you went there. I went to a top-20 school and it does not look impressive on my resume.
- magnio 3y agoThose university rankings are rubbish. Sure, they tell you MIT and Stanford are one of the best schools in the world; like anyone would need a ranking for that. Those rankings not only consider teaching quality to be the sole factor, but also infrastructure, research output, financial status, and degree of internationalization. It is as gameable as gacha game rankings. For more sobering examples: Universiti Malaya (UM) and City University of Hong Kong ranks higher than Brown University. University of Copenhagen, University of Waterloo, and Rice University are all outside of top 100, so I guess we can call them OKish (all according to QS 2024).
- thelastgallon 3y agoLet's look at one US University, UC Berkeley. 26 faculty Nobel Prize winners and 35 alumni winners. The current faculty includes 262 American Academy of Arts and Sciences Fellows, three Fields Medalists, 77 Fulbright Scholars, 139 Guggenheim Fellows, 90 members of the National Academy of Engineering, 144 members of the National Academy of Sciences,[81] ten Nobel Prize winners, four Pulitzer Prize winners, 125 Sloan Fellows, 8 Wolf Prize winners and 1 Pritzker Prize winner. Or, lets take CalTech with a similar size enrollment (in the thousands): As of October 2022, Caltech has 46 Nobel laureates to its name awarded to 30 alumni (26 graduates and 4 postdocs), including 5 Caltech professors who are also alumni. > IITs are prestigious institutions. They’re not OKish institutions in the slightest. They aren't. They are a filter for a few thousand out of 1.4 billion people. Yet, all the IITs put together produce nothing compared to the output of one US University. > 99% end up writing Java code for Wall Street or work for ad-tech. I doubt they are pushing the boundaries of science.
- dragonwriter 3y ago> Let's look at one US University, UC Berkeley. [...] > Or, lets take CalTech with a similar size enrollment (in the thousands) [...] Caltech student population is a little over 2,200, mostly graduate students. UC Berkeley is over 45,000, about 3/4 undergraduates. They don't have "similar enrollments".
- thelastgallon 3y agoi'm not comparing CalTech vs UCB, I'm comparing both to IITs. IITs historically had 2K - 3K enrollment (5 IITs), recently this seems to have changed with a lot more IITs.
- thelastgallon 3y agoThere is really nothing tough about these exams. They are all based on regurgitating some textbooks. Indian education system is built by the British, they needed some locals to do clerical work, who repeat what the masters said is knowledge (remember and and faithfully reproduce), follow orders. The white sahibs are replaced by brown sahibs, the education system is the same, what British called ICS is renamed to IAS (top govt official in a district), but its the same thing.
- ssnistfajen 3y agoDoesn't the US already have SAT which despite being non-mandatory, is required by 80% of degree-issuing US institutions? And there are already tons of studies showing family wealth has a positive correlation with higher SAT scores.
- otoburb 3y ago>>[...] SAT [...] required by 80% of degree-issuing US institutions? I believe it used to be that way a few years ago, but since the pandemic the ratio inverted such that most US colleges are now test-optional.