4 ms·

Would a wolf pack stop hunting elk if they could all just sit down and talk with each other? We're not wolves, of course, but meat can reasonably be some perce

Would a wolf pack stop hunting elk if they could all just sit down and talk with each other? We're not wolves, of course, but meat can reasonably be some percentage of our diet. I prefer a few meals a month that include meat. I've read and thoroughly enjoyed Charlotte's Web. I love watching animals of all shapes and sizes and abilities. I sat in a stand for hours, days, and ultimately shot a deer for food. I also accept that I will eat meat and enjoy it as a delicious luxury, even if they have something interesting to say. We've killed so many wolves that it is now on us to either give more land back to wolves, removing our fences and livestock, or kill the deer ourselves. There are already animals I will not eat unless it's necessary for survival. Whales. Wolves. Bears. Raptors. Chimpanzees. The list is fairly long. Consider reading The Birchbark House by Louise Erdrich[0], about Omakayas and her family (Anishinaabe, 1847) living through the seasons of a year. [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Birchbark_House https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Birchbark_House

throwbadubadu 3y ago
> Would a wolf pack stop hunting elk if they could all just sit down and talk with each other? Wolf pack to elk: Hey, you ok with we eating you? Elk: WTF definitely not, go away please. Wolf: But we have no other option and want also to survive! Elk: (argument less meh) For us it is a bit different though now.
zzo38computer 3y ago
> Would a wolf pack stop hunting elk if they could all just sit down and talk with each other? Obviously I could not know (unless such a thing were happening and I were there to observe it, which I am not), so I would try to guess. Maybe temporarily, if you actually have something to discuss (rather than wanting to eat). Even then it would probably be rare even if it is somehow possible. > but meat can reasonably be some percentage of our diet. I prefer a few meals a month that include meat. Yes, I think so too. Of course it need not be all the time (humans is omnivores and should eat both plants and meats), but a few meals in a month, it can be OK. > We've killed so many wolves that it is now on us to either give more land back to wolves, removing our fences and livestock, or kill the deer ourselves. I do think that, you should give more land back to the wolves if they have run out of land (but it is not necessary if that is not the case). Kill the deer yourself is not completely the solution, though, but may be worth if you like to eat a deer. Otherwise, I think that it is generally better not to do and to do something else instead. > There are already animals I will not eat unless it's necessary for survival. Whales. Wolves. Bears. Raptors. Chimpanzees. The list is fairly long. I also, but unless it is because they are endangered, it will not be because of a moral reason; rather, just what I eat is something else instead.
paulcole 3y ago
> meat can reasonably be some percentage of our diet. Is this actually true? Or is it true to you because: > I prefer a few meals a month that include meat. There’s tons of things some people like that the majority of people choose not to do because we’re “civilized.” But then there’s tons of stuff that we convince ourselves is logical and reasonable because it fits with the worldview and lifestyle that we personally like.

throwbadubadu 3y ago

> Would a wolf pack stop hunting elk if they could all just sit down and talk with each other? Wolf pack to elk: Hey, you ok with we eating you? Elk: WTF definitely not, go away please. Wolf: But we have no other option and want also to survive! Elk: (argument less meh) For us it is a bit different though now.

zzo38computer 3y ago

> Would a wolf pack stop hunting elk if they could all just sit down and talk with each other? Obviously I could not know (unless such a thing were happening and I were there to observe it, which I am not), so I would try to guess. Maybe temporarily, if you actually have something to discuss (rather than wanting to eat). Even then it would probably be rare even if it is somehow possible. > but meat can reasonably be some percentage of our diet. I prefer a few meals a month that include meat. Yes, I think so too. Of course it need not be all the time (humans is omnivores and should eat both plants and meats), but a few meals in a month, it can be OK. > We've killed so many wolves that it is now on us to either give more land back to wolves, removing our fences and livestock, or kill the deer ourselves. I do think that, you should give more land back to the wolves if they have run out of land (but it is not necessary if that is not the case). Kill the deer yourself is not completely the solution, though, but may be worth if you like to eat a deer. Otherwise, I think that it is generally better not to do and to do something else instead. > There are already animals I will not eat unless it's necessary for survival. Whales. Wolves. Bears. Raptors. Chimpanzees. The list is fairly long. I also, but unless it is because they are endangered, it will not be because of a moral reason; rather, just what I eat is something else instead.

paulcole 3y ago

> meat can reasonably be some percentage of our diet. Is this actually true? Or is it true to you because: > I prefer a few meals a month that include meat. There’s tons of things some people like that the majority of people choose not to do because we’re “civilized.” But then there’s tons of stuff that we convince ourselves is logical and reasonable because it fits with the worldview and lifestyle that we personally like.