> "rarely able to actually engage" I've always hated this sort of talk. The myth that some people are inherently creative, or inherently logic brained, or inhe

> "rarely able to actually engage" I've always hated this sort of talk. The myth that some people are inherently creative, or inherently logic brained, or inherently buisness brained, or whatever, and never the twain shall meet. I've seen a spectrum in most dev teams I've worked in. Those with good communication, those without. However, I've also spoken to sales, HR, etc people who paint the whole team with one brush and are afraid to come and speak to the scary code people. This, I'm afraid to say, is often because those people were also bad communicators. I agree there needs to be more awareness of the buisness realities among developers (personally I think it leads to more fulfilled and happy developers, among other things), but I think that can't be placed entirely on developer's heads. They can't know how the sales team's meeting in morocco next week's call might affect things if they have no idea that the meeting is happening, who the client is, what that client means in terms of the industry, the likely things that client might value. They are adults. A couple of onboarding meetings, occasional cross-training does wonders. And if they did know that? They might be able to quickly throw something together that has a good chance of really impressing that client. Or provide certain insight into what the company's solution actually does for the client.