Editor's note: DLVR seems to be working. MLID points out that the (same core config, 2% higher clocked) 14600K pretty consistently pulls 30W less than the 136

Editor's note: DLVR seems to be working. MLID points out that the (same core config, 2% higher clocked) 14600K pretty consistently pulls 30W less than the 13600K, in HUB's benchmarks. The performance results are margin-of-error. That's a pretty big gain for better yield/tighter undervolting over time, that's a large chunk of the processor's power consumption (which HUB does not bench separately). I'm waiting to see the meta-reviews come out but that's tentatively interesting. I totally bet they did get DLVR working and just immediately spent it all on higher clocks and a few more cores in key segments to stay ahead of AMD in the "top" segments (or, the benefits of the stepdown are minimal when you're clocking very high). It looks like another 12900K/13900K where the top SKU is just clocked beyond all insanity but if you set a normal power limit it's fine. Actually substantially better than 12th/13th gen in efficiency, at iso clock/cores. https://www.techspot.com/review/2749-intel-core-14th-gen-cpus/ https://www.techspot.com/review/2749-intel-core-14th-gen-cpu... DLVR is the continuation of the FIVR technology from Skylake-SP. I know I've read some good discussion on the topic recently but I don't remember the specific trajectory of the tech. But Alder Lake was supposed to reintroduce it (confirmed in BIOS options left in early Asus bios) and Raptor Lake was supposed to introduce it again... third time's the charm, seemingly. https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-dlvr-fused-off-in-raptor-lake https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-dlvr-fused-off-in-ra... https://twitter.com/Underfox3/status/1428233148870111233 https://twitter.com/Underfox3/status/1428233148870111233 https://www.freepatentsonline.com/20210208656.pdf https://www.freepatentsonline.com/20210208656.pdf It just also does not really matter because AMD is making progress too. These 14th-gen will have to go up against Zen5 next year, even if Meteor Lake does get into socketed chips at some point (which will be a new socket, lol) it's gonna be in a much different competitive atmosphere. Strix and Strix Halo should be sick and should be very legit Apple Silicon competitors, for extreme enthusiast workstation laptops etc with socketed dual/quad configurations to 512GB/1TB respectively, or more, and big caches, with AI accelerators etc. Intel needs to get products consistently working and consistently out on time. It's not that their products are awful, per se, but Meteor Lake is going to be perceived way differently coming after Zen5 launches etc. Server Zen5 will not be that many quarters away. Etc. The 2.5gbe still has problems after like 6 public steppings. Etc. There clearly are still problems in execution. Also ran into this interesting legacy post searching for another reference. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1178509 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1178509