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Did Europeans not already have those advantages in 2008 though? If the figures quoted are correct then the Eurozone has had negligible growth over 15 years whil
by Silhouette 3y ago
Did Europeans not already have those advantages in 2008 though? If the figures quoted are correct then the Eurozone has had negligible growth over 15 years while the US has almost doubled the size of its economy over the same period. That surely can't be explained merely by Europeans continuing to enjoy the same advantages they already had but paying for the privilege.
- izacus 3y agoWhy do you think GDP is a relevant metric here?
- caskstrength 3y ago> Why do you think GDP is a relevant metric here? What other metric would you propose? Considering we are on HN maybe laughable SDE salaries in EU would be a more relevant metric?
- troupo 3y agoSo, the US has doubled its GDP and has "non-laughable SDE salaries". How has this translated into benefits for the non-SDE folks?
- caskstrength 3y agoI'm SDE myself so I don't have much data on that. I've heard people in finance get insane salaries. I would assume that folks working in SpaceX are doing better than their European colleagues from ArianeGroup (who may soon do even worse [0]). [0]: https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/10/oops-it-looks-like-the-ariane-6-rocket-may-not-offer-europe-any-launch-savings https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/10/oops-it-looks-like-the...
- troupo 3y agoHow about fast food workers?
- caskstrength 3y agoSorry, neither me nor my friends are into fast food business and it is not something I would read about in my free time.
- troupo 3y agoYou should read about that, too. And not just about "laughable SDE salaries". It's not the SDEs who keep you alive in this world.
- caskstrength 3y agoHow patronizing. I was born in a country where SDEs and "people who keep you alive" were paid more or less the same and don't want to go back, thank you very much.
- troupo 3y ago> How patronizing. Indeed > were paid more or less the same and don't want to go back, thank you very much. Let me guess: because now you're paid ridiculous amounts of money and you couldn't care less about other human beings.
- caskstrength 3y agoNeither US nor EU have caste system. Everyone is welcome to apply for highly paid jobs in tech, finance, aerospace, etc.