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Perhaps if there were enough big artists to get together and "strike" against Live Nation/Ticketmaster exclusive venues something might change for the better fo

Perhaps if there were enough big artists to get together and "strike" against Live Nation/Ticketmaster exclusive venues something might change for the better for their fans. But, alas, that money too good.

simonw 3y ago
If a venue has signed a multi-year contract with Ticketmaster there's not much they can do as a short-term measure inspired by something like a strike.
willcipriano 3y ago
Sounds anticompetitive to me, antitrust action should be taken.
- kelseyfrog 3y ago
  Anti-trust (at least to me) has a connotation with trust-busting and splitting up companies, but I'd be interested in the ramifications of restricting Ticketmaster to creating contracts no longer than, say, 6 months. On one hand, free markets involve sellers and buyers coming together freely which exclusivity contracts prohibit, but on the other hand exclusivity contracts are nominally voluntary agreements which is a free exchange. Perhaps free-exchange simply isn't a useful framing here.
  - TT2048 3y ago
    This could be a headache for venues. The financial arbitrage is too good for them, they have almost zero risk of having their venue empty.
  - trollied 3y ago
    6 months would not make sense, when people routinely buy tickets for concerts 12-18 months out.
  - willis936 3y ago
    Trust busting exists for this very case. Shorter contracts would solve nothing because the market is as far from free as it can be and the one in charge has no interest in changing that.
  - hfhdjdks 3y ago
    The busting and splitting up is a hard tool, but anti-trust has many other tools at their disposal, including maintaining status quo (i.e. refusing the merge of two companies). Disclaimer: I don't work in the US, so I'm not sure if anti-trust there is heavily biased there to this heavy duty tool, but I do know they have plenty of other tools
- pockybum522 3y ago
  No chance of that, they're based in America
idontwantthis 3y ago
I think that’s roughly how the Coachella music festival started, but yeah…money.
masklinn 3y ago
> But, alas, that money too good. This one. Not only does ticketmaster have contracts with most venues unless they own them outright, they're also a very convenient foil as they serve as ire-magnets.
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simonw 3y ago

If a venue has signed a multi-year contract with Ticketmaster there's not much they can do as a short-term measure inspired by something like a strike.

willcipriano 3y ago

Sounds anticompetitive to me, antitrust action should be taken.

kelseyfrog 3y ago
Anti-trust (at least to me) has a connotation with trust-busting and splitting up companies, but I'd be interested in the ramifications of restricting Ticketmaster to creating contracts no longer than, say, 6 months. On one hand, free markets involve sellers and buyers coming together freely which exclusivity contracts prohibit, but on the other hand exclusivity contracts are nominally voluntary agreements which is a free exchange. Perhaps free-exchange simply isn't a useful framing here.
- TT2048 3y ago
  This could be a headache for venues. The financial arbitrage is too good for them, they have almost zero risk of having their venue empty.
- trollied 3y ago
  6 months would not make sense, when people routinely buy tickets for concerts 12-18 months out.
- willis936 3y ago
  Trust busting exists for this very case. Shorter contracts would solve nothing because the market is as far from free as it can be and the one in charge has no interest in changing that.
- hfhdjdks 3y ago
  The busting and splitting up is a hard tool, but anti-trust has many other tools at their disposal, including maintaining status quo (i.e. refusing the merge of two companies). Disclaimer: I don't work in the US, so I'm not sure if anti-trust there is heavily biased there to this heavy duty tool, but I do know they have plenty of other tools
pockybum522 3y ago
No chance of that, they're based in America

idontwantthis 3y ago

I think that’s roughly how the Coachella music festival started, but yeah…money.

masklinn 3y ago

> But, alas, that money too good. This one. Not only does ticketmaster have contracts with most venues unless they own them outright, they're also a very convenient foil as they serve as ire-magnets.

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