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I’ve yet to hear a good explanation for how a fragment of a PIJ rocket could cause vastly, like an order of magnitude+, more damage than any that has ever lande

I’ve yet to hear a good explanation for how a fragment of a PIJ rocket could cause vastly, like an order of magnitude+, more damage than any that has ever landed in Israel. But what I have seen is: Israel bomb UNRWA schools; issue evacuation orders for a bunch of hospitals, including this one in question; provide a number of inconsistent explanations and equivocations in the hours and days since; bomb the southern half of Gaza after demanding everyone evacuate the north. So I’m going with the most obvious explanation that Israel bombed this hospital, and it’s allies in the West plus a bunch of stooges like “the OSINT community” are muddying the waters and desperately trying to do damage control.

baryphonic 3y ago
This is a photo of "ground zero" hosted by NBC News.[0] I'm not sure what "an order of magnitude+" more destruction is referring to. Perhaps you can enlighten us. From what I can tell, there is pretty minimal destruction seen here, and most of it can be explained by a small initial explosion with fire spreading vehicle to vehicle. [0]https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/t_fit-760w,f_auto,q_auto:best/rockcms/2023-10/231018-gaza-hospital-daytime-mb-1144-a3cd4e.jpg https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/t_fit-760w,f...
- jakeinspace 3y ago
  It’s clear that 500 people didn’t die from this. Which feels ugly to say, denying death figures in a bombing campaign which is clearly horrific and has killed thousands so far, but I just can’t imagine it. It’s kind of astounding that just by anchoring with the idea that this explosion killed 500 people, and the large eruption of fire (not indicative of an Israeli bomb, whether air burst or not), many many people have bought into this being a massive blast. It was not. Absolutely something achievable by a moderately sized rocket, possibly augmented by either rocket fuel or a diesel/oxygen tank on the ground.
jules-jules 3y ago
Agreed. Very hard to agree with people subscribing to this timeline: 1. IDF warns hospital director to evacuate hospital. 2. Israel bombs hosptial in question causing major damage and injuring four doctors. 3. IDF calls hospital director asking why hospital still hasn’t been evacuated and demands imminent evacuation. Director says it’s impossible due to patient needing intensive care. 4. Hospital gets bombed. 400+ people die. Hamas-affiliated group did it.

baryphonic 3y ago

This is a photo of "ground zero" hosted by NBC News.[0] I'm not sure what "an order of magnitude+" more destruction is referring to. Perhaps you can enlighten us. From what I can tell, there is pretty minimal destruction seen here, and most of it can be explained by a small initial explosion with fire spreading vehicle to vehicle. [0]https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/t_fit-760w,f_auto,q_auto:best/rockcms/2023-10/231018-gaza-hospital-daytime-mb-1144-a3cd4e.jpg https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/t_fit-760w,f...

jakeinspace 3y ago
It’s clear that 500 people didn’t die from this. Which feels ugly to say, denying death figures in a bombing campaign which is clearly horrific and has killed thousands so far, but I just can’t imagine it. It’s kind of astounding that just by anchoring with the idea that this explosion killed 500 people, and the large eruption of fire (not indicative of an Israeli bomb, whether air burst or not), many many people have bought into this being a massive blast. It was not. Absolutely something achievable by a moderately sized rocket, possibly augmented by either rocket fuel or a diesel/oxygen tank on the ground.

jules-jules 3y ago

Agreed. Very hard to agree with people subscribing to this timeline: 1. IDF warns hospital director to evacuate hospital. 2. Israel bombs hosptial in question causing major damage and injuring four doctors. 3. IDF calls hospital director asking why hospital still hasn’t been evacuated and demands imminent evacuation. Director says it’s impossible due to patient needing intensive care. 4. Hospital gets bombed. 400+ people die. Hamas-affiliated group did it.