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> Operation Warp Speed I know you’re using this as as example. It has me curious though: I feel like this wasn’t a failure, but also could have been a lot mor

> Operation Warp Speed I know you’re using this as as example. It has me curious though: I feel like this wasn’t a failure, but also could have been a lot more successful. This is just a gut feel, has there been any good quantitative retrospectives on operation warp speed?

zdragnar 3y ago
Aside from the effectiveness of the vaccine, and reluctance to take it, what would you like about it to have been more effective? What would normally have taken years took less than one- from research to production of hundreds of millions of units.
- schneems 3y ago
  That’s why I’m asking for a retrospective. What went well? What could be better?
  - zdragnar 3y ago
    You said you felt it could have gone better. I just now noticed that you qualified that as a gut feeling. I'd assumed there was something specific that you felt wasn't done well. For my money's worth, I would have preferred that government officials were more honest- especially fauci. The whole escalation of what percentage was needed for herd immunity (they knew the initial numbers they talked about were too low), the threats that Grandma would die at Thanksgiving if you didn't get it (despite it not actually preventing spread) and the assertion that it was totally safe (despite causing myocarditis in young men, about 50% or more with permanent heart damage according to a new study). Yes, COVID was terrible, and people needed to take steps to avoid getting it. The dishonesty surrounding what those steps were (and what we did vs did not know) made making informed decisions impossible. https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.123.064772 https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.123.0...
claytongulick 3y ago
I'm trying to think what the missile equivalent of Operation Warp Speed would be? 100% effective missiles that no one wants to shoot, don't require thorough testing, launch in unpredictable directions, and when they detonate have surprise effects depending on the target? Sometimes they explode! Other times, maybe deliver a nice cup of tea, or a burst of roses.

zdragnar 3y ago

Aside from the effectiveness of the vaccine, and reluctance to take it, what would you like about it to have been more effective? What would normally have taken years took less than one- from research to production of hundreds of millions of units.

schneems 3y ago
That’s why I’m asking for a retrospective. What went well? What could be better?
- zdragnar 3y ago
  You said you felt it could have gone better. I just now noticed that you qualified that as a gut feeling. I'd assumed there was something specific that you felt wasn't done well. For my money's worth, I would have preferred that government officials were more honest- especially fauci. The whole escalation of what percentage was needed for herd immunity (they knew the initial numbers they talked about were too low), the threats that Grandma would die at Thanksgiving if you didn't get it (despite it not actually preventing spread) and the assertion that it was totally safe (despite causing myocarditis in young men, about 50% or more with permanent heart damage according to a new study). Yes, COVID was terrible, and people needed to take steps to avoid getting it. The dishonesty surrounding what those steps were (and what we did vs did not know) made making informed decisions impossible. https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.123.064772 https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.123.0...

claytongulick 3y ago

I'm trying to think what the missile equivalent of Operation Warp Speed would be? 100% effective missiles that no one wants to shoot, don't require thorough testing, launch in unpredictable directions, and when they detonate have surprise effects depending on the target? Sometimes they explode! Other times, maybe deliver a nice cup of tea, or a burst of roses.