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>And in case of some substances like drugs if you reduce dosage or adjust protocol so that trip doesn't happen means that you also got rid of any significant ef
by omginternets 3y ago
>And in case of some substances like drugs if you reduce dosage or adjust protocol so that trip doesn't happen means that you also got rid of any significant effect it might have on the brain.
We agree. My point is that the evidence seems to be going in the direction of:
1. removing transcendence removes part of the benefit; and,
2. to complicate matters, many protocols fail to properly control for transcendent experience because a lot of control groups are placed in a quiet room, free of distraction, and invited to ponder life.
We're both materialists. Mine is a materialist position.
- scotty79 3y ago> We're both materialists. Mine is a materialist position. I'm not quite sure about you because you are using words like transcendence. ;-) In my view the deep experience of the trip, what you call transcendence, is just another hallucination, just hallucination of meaning and understanding instead of simple images, sounds or sensations.
- omginternets 3y agoTranscendence is a qualia of experience; it says nothing about whether an immaterial substance is required to experience it.