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Respect can be earned through repeated professional and trustworthy behaviour - what you are talking about is fear.

beebeepka 3y ago
For certain types of people, respect can only be achieved via intimidation. Or mean the same thing. Edit: I think people are completely misunderstanding this post. I made a general statement about humans. Not about policing, not about a country. Just an observation that certain types of people only seem to understand/respect violence. Not every statement needs to be "unpacked"
- Kinrany 3y ago
  If that were true, the appropriate solution would be deploying intimidation techniques against those people, not wearing a uniform that does it to everyone
  - beebeepka 3y ago
    I am deeply confused by this response. All I did was described authoritarians a little differently.
- anon373839 3y ago
  Considering the totally dysfunctional state of American policing, I think we can longer afford to give police that type of “respect”.
- ghusto 3y ago
  Worked fine in England with _every_ type of criminal, when police were basically wearing a giant tit on their heads. Respect isn't given to people who look movie-tough-guy-cool, it's given to people who know what they're doing. When one of the earlier police commissioners was asked why the police don't carry guns, he replied that it would put too much distance between them and the public. The police in the U.S.A. seem to actively be going for that distance.
  - adhesive_wombat 3y ago
    > it would put too much distance between them and the public It's not just one person's opinion, either. The British police is (supposed to, it's stretching further from it under the endless cuts) adhere to Peelian principles. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peelian_principles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peelian_principles
    - ghusto 3y ago
      Thanks, that page is super interesting. > The Metropolitan Police officers were often referred to as 'Bobbies' after Sir Robert (Bobby) Peel So _that's_ why! :D
  - thsksbd 3y ago
    And a massive billy club they weren't afraid to bludgeon people with.

For certain types of people, respect can only be achieved via intimidation. Or mean the same thing. Edit: I think people are completely misunderstanding this post. I made a general statement about humans. Not about policing, not about a country. Just an observation that certain types of people only seem to understand/respect violence. Not every statement needs to be "unpacked"

Kinrany 3y ago
If that were true, the appropriate solution would be deploying intimidation techniques against those people, not wearing a uniform that does it to everyone
- beebeepka 3y ago
  I am deeply confused by this response. All I did was described authoritarians a little differently.
anon373839 3y ago
Considering the totally dysfunctional state of American policing, I think we can longer afford to give police that type of “respect”.
ghusto 3y ago
Worked fine in England with _every_ type of criminal, when police were basically wearing a giant tit on their heads. Respect isn't given to people who look movie-tough-guy-cool, it's given to people who know what they're doing. When one of the earlier police commissioners was asked why the police don't carry guns, he replied that it would put too much distance between them and the public. The police in the U.S.A. seem to actively be going for that distance.
- adhesive_wombat 3y ago
  > it would put too much distance between them and the public It's not just one person's opinion, either. The British police is (supposed to, it's stretching further from it under the endless cuts) adhere to Peelian principles. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peelian_principles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peelian_principles
  - ghusto 3y ago
    Thanks, that page is super interesting. > The Metropolitan Police officers were often referred to as 'Bobbies' after Sir Robert (Bobby) Peel So _that's_ why! :D
- thsksbd 3y ago
  And a massive billy club they weren't afraid to bludgeon people with.