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The kid was incredibly genial and polite for quite a while until the cop started lying and making it clear he was determined to make a false dui arrest.

freedomben 3y ago
I mostly agree. IMHO the point at which the kid departed from that was at 5:29: https://youtu.be/so_bFYoIsow?si=H4-TGu7e90U1Emaf&t=328 https://youtu.be/so_bFYoIsow?si=H4-TGu7e90U1Emaf&t=328 At that point I don't think it was clear that the cop was determined to make a false DUI arrest. That came much later. At that point though the copy definitely seemed convinced that the kid was drinking, but he was still working through it. It's definitely possible that had the kid maintained his original demeanor that the cop might have changed his mind during or after the tests, but after the insults and stuff there was no way for him to back out without feeling stupid and like the kid "won." Normally I wouldn't bother saying this next part but people seem intent today on reading more into my comments than is actually there, so to be clear, none of that justifies the cop's behavior and arrest. The cop was being a petty emotional asshole and his conduct was disgusting and despicable.
- hamburglar 3y ago
  For what it’s worth, I think you were very clear on the cop being in the wrong. I just disagree that the kid’s fairly mild attitude was in any way out of line or inadvisable, especially given how polite he was for so long. I think it was very obvious the cop was pushing a BS narrative from the beginning and I certainly would have had a hard time holding my tongue about it. When you haven’t been anywhere near alcohol and are stone cold sober and a cop claims your eyes are bloodshot and watery and you’re slurring your speech and, most egregiously, that they can smell alcohol on your breath, you know you are getting railroaded.

freedomben 3y ago

I mostly agree. IMHO the point at which the kid departed from that was at 5:29: https://youtu.be/so_bFYoIsow?si=H4-TGu7e90U1Emaf&t=328 https://youtu.be/so_bFYoIsow?si=H4-TGu7e90U1Emaf&t=328 At that point I don't think it was clear that the cop was determined to make a false DUI arrest. That came much later. At that point though the copy definitely seemed convinced that the kid was drinking, but he was still working through it. It's definitely possible that had the kid maintained his original demeanor that the cop might have changed his mind during or after the tests, but after the insults and stuff there was no way for him to back out without feeling stupid and like the kid "won." Normally I wouldn't bother saying this next part but people seem intent today on reading more into my comments than is actually there, so to be clear, none of that justifies the cop's behavior and arrest. The cop was being a petty emotional asshole and his conduct was disgusting and despicable.

hamburglar 3y ago
For what it’s worth, I think you were very clear on the cop being in the wrong. I just disagree that the kid’s fairly mild attitude was in any way out of line or inadvisable, especially given how polite he was for so long. I think it was very obvious the cop was pushing a BS narrative from the beginning and I certainly would have had a hard time holding my tongue about it. When you haven’t been anywhere near alcohol and are stone cold sober and a cop claims your eyes are bloodshot and watery and you’re slurring your speech and, most egregiously, that they can smell alcohol on your breath, you know you are getting railroaded.