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> anti-American warnings of Arab nations after they thought — incorrectly — Israel struck a hospital in Gaza, killing hundreds. This is utterly rubbish and unp

> anti-American warnings of Arab nations after they thought — incorrectly — Israel struck a hospital in Gaza, killing hundreds. This is utterly rubbish and unprofessional journalism. There are many proofs this was done by an Israeli raid !! The simplest one is that the Palestinians never had weapons that powerful. Also there is real-time video of the moment the raid happened. Incorrectly is not a word a journalist says. It's propaganda !! and sadly propaganda to cover up a genocide.

RealityVoid 3y ago
I can't understand how with the mountain of evidence that it was a misfire, people can still believe this.
- brvsft 3y ago
  People will believe whatever nonsense they want to believe contrary to any evidence. It's just like the 40 beheaded babies story from a week ago, but from the other side. Both sides get to believe false narratives, so it's all quite fair I guess.
- abdellah123 3y ago
  This is the problem with propaganda. People outsource news verifications to Media outlets. And it's not hidden that the West and Israel control most of it. So when they say we have proof verified by our journalists ... It's equivalent to have proofs verified by the attorney of one side presented to a judge as TRUTH!! You need to see the proofs of both sides and judge for yourself. Israel has a track record of lying, and so does Biden. The most basic lie is one stated at the beginning of the war [1]. And the worst part is that lying to 100M+ people is irreversible. It doesn't matter if you back off later. A 5yo child was killed in the US because of that FALSE claim. [1] https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/12/white-house-walks-back-bidens-claim-he-saw-children-beheaded-by-hamas https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/12/white-house-walks-...
- moate 3y ago
  I haven't watched anything this morning, but last night when I was watching the news/reading the AP coverage the reporters statements were "Both sides have claimed the opposition is responsible, and we have been unable to independently verify these claims, so we just don't know right now". Other than "Biden has said his people believe Isreal" what "mountain of evidence" conclusively points one way, and why haven't the independent journalist sources changed their statements yet? All I've seen is that it isn't "consistent with an Israeli airstrike", which proves one thing it is not but not what it is. *edited for typo
- gorwell 3y ago
  That's what NYT, BBC and others reported and a lot of people still believe those outlets. They even sent push alerts blaming Israel for killing hundreds of civilians at the hospital.
- walr000s 3y ago
  The mountain of evidence is a bunch of former US Intel personnel turned corporate media stooges saying that it didn't look like an air strike? Both sides are capable of blowing shit up without an air strike... I haven't seen anything convincing one way or another and my experience as a former US Intel stooge is that the foreign news press in the United States usually whiffs on the narrative and almost never presents definitive evidence of any but the most tangential details to corroborate their narratives. If you've seen convincing evidence, I'd be interested in a link.

RealityVoid 3y ago

I can't understand how with the mountain of evidence that it was a misfire, people can still believe this.

brvsft 3y ago
People will believe whatever nonsense they want to believe contrary to any evidence. It's just like the 40 beheaded babies story from a week ago, but from the other side. Both sides get to believe false narratives, so it's all quite fair I guess.
abdellah123 3y ago
This is the problem with propaganda. People outsource news verifications to Media outlets. And it's not hidden that the West and Israel control most of it. So when they say we have proof verified by our journalists ... It's equivalent to have proofs verified by the attorney of one side presented to a judge as TRUTH!! You need to see the proofs of both sides and judge for yourself. Israel has a track record of lying, and so does Biden. The most basic lie is one stated at the beginning of the war [1]. And the worst part is that lying to 100M+ people is irreversible. It doesn't matter if you back off later. A 5yo child was killed in the US because of that FALSE claim. [1] https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/12/white-house-walks-back-bidens-claim-he-saw-children-beheaded-by-hamas https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/12/white-house-walks-...
moate 3y ago
I haven't watched anything this morning, but last night when I was watching the news/reading the AP coverage the reporters statements were "Both sides have claimed the opposition is responsible, and we have been unable to independently verify these claims, so we just don't know right now". Other than "Biden has said his people believe Isreal" what "mountain of evidence" conclusively points one way, and why haven't the independent journalist sources changed their statements yet? All I've seen is that it isn't "consistent with an Israeli airstrike", which proves one thing it is not but not what it is. *edited for typo
gorwell 3y ago
That's what NYT, BBC and others reported and a lot of people still believe those outlets. They even sent push alerts blaming Israel for killing hundreds of civilians at the hospital.
walr000s 3y ago
The mountain of evidence is a bunch of former US Intel personnel turned corporate media stooges saying that it didn't look like an air strike? Both sides are capable of blowing shit up without an air strike... I haven't seen anything convincing one way or another and my experience as a former US Intel stooge is that the foreign news press in the United States usually whiffs on the narrative and almost never presents definitive evidence of any but the most tangential details to corroborate their narratives. If you've seen convincing evidence, I'd be interested in a link.