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It took me a while to find a through-the-lens view. https://i.imgur.com/7iwNBeP.png https://i.imgur.com/7iwNBeP.png

by hrnnnnnn 3y ago

YellowSuB 3y ago
Oof that is rough
- deepspace 3y ago
  Yikes, yes, I was expecting bad, but not that bad.
thomascgalvin 3y ago
This can't be real ...
swesak 3y ago
It's like reading in Minecraft.
- zaptrem 3y ago
  Or reading on an old iPod!
  - eimrine 3y ago
    HN renders nice on my friend's old ipod.
    - zaptrem 3y ago
      Maybe we’re thinking about different iPods https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/378227457750466574/1164949088148668476/IMG_0462.jpg?ex=65451262&is=65329d62&hm=a9e6a8fc0a5766bae14a134671529bfbc3e1a7738e228006207b2dfaf98cfa11& https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/378227457750466574/...
w-m 3y ago
- Pancake optics (0 to -5.75 diopter adjustable) - Interpupillary Distance (IPD) adjustment range of 58 to 72mm - E Ink 1.3” displays - 256x256 per eye resolution - Side-lit with 3000K LEDs - Circular polarizers and transflective films https://solreader.com/technical-specs https://solreader.com/technical-specs
- timmg 3y ago
  Not sure how 256x256 is going to make potential customers happy.
  - johnboiles 3y ago
    Working on more, but nothing exists off-the-shelf for >300ppi eink. No one has ever done eink under magnification like this so higher density screens don't exist (yet). We made a custom bitmap font system and font to squeeze every bit of optimization out of this screen that we can. Text rendering isn't pristine at this low res but it's good enough to not hinder reading. https://x.com/johnboiles/status/1715136868290081104?s=20 https://x.com/johnboiles/status/1715136868290081104?s=20
HumblyTossed 3y ago
Yeah, at this res and price, they shouldn't be showing you a page. They should be eye tracking and showing you the a line or two of text at a time so that it's much cleaner.
- rescripting 3y ago
  Eye tracking requires a very high refresh rate, and this is an e-ink display which have very, very slow refresh rates.
chankstein38 3y ago
$350 to preorder THIS?
- lawlessone 3y ago
  For that price i would expect it to load all my books into a VR world simulating a quiet study room in mansion. The new oculus meta quest 3 could do this and the price difference while nearly double isn't huge if someone really as 350 spare to spend on this. And the oculus would have headphones, this doens't?
lloyds_barclays 3y ago
For the most advanced e-ink display, it offers 300 ppi. I don't think this kind of resolution is sufficient for VR.
- lawlessone 3y ago
  I know e-ink is expensive. But two tiny screens aren't THAT expensive. Someone will probably a have version of this on Hack A Day made from spares.
  - krabizzwainch 3y ago
    I have actually made a pi powered eReader with a 2.7 inch eink screen with Python. I could pretty easily swap the code over to work with the 1.3 inch screens they use here. And no, I suck at doing write ups on my projects so I don’t have one lol. But here is the write up someone else did when they saw my post on Reddit. https://www.hackster.io/news/diy-e-reader-incorporates-mechanical-key-switches-7755045a3c3c https://www.hackster.io/news/diy-e-reader-incorporates-mecha...
    - johnboiles 3y ago
      Any interest in hacking on sol reader with us?
      - reneherse 3y ago
        This kind of interaction is what I love about HN! :D
      - krabizzwainch 3y ago
        Hi! Sorry I didn’t see this when you commented. I would definitely be interested in trying to hack on one of these
  - johnboiles 3y ago
    The only particularly cutting edge tech on this thing are the custom pancake lenses. Same optics style as in the Vision Pro and Quest 3. Those are $$$
johnboiles 3y ago
I posted some IRL through-the-lens views yesterday on Twitter https://x.com/johnboiles/status/1715136868290081104?s=20 https://x.com/johnboiles/status/1715136868290081104?s=20
bookofjoe 3y ago
DOA
lelag 3y ago
I thought you were trolling... but no, you are not. For those who want to see more lens shots, you can scroll to "Product Specs" and click the 2nd tab "Navigation".

It took me a while to find a through-the-lens view. https://i.imgur.com/7iwNBeP.png https://i.imgur.com/7iwNBeP.png

YellowSuB 3y ago

Oof that is rough

deepspace 3y ago
Yikes, yes, I was expecting bad, but not that bad.

thomascgalvin 3y ago

This can't be real ...

swesak 3y ago

It's like reading in Minecraft.

zaptrem 3y ago
Or reading on an old iPod!
- eimrine 3y ago
  HN renders nice on my friend's old ipod.
  - zaptrem 3y ago
    Maybe we’re thinking about different iPods https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/378227457750466574/1164949088148668476/IMG_0462.jpg?ex=65451262&is=65329d62&hm=a9e6a8fc0a5766bae14a134671529bfbc3e1a7738e228006207b2dfaf98cfa11& https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/378227457750466574/...

w-m 3y ago

- Pancake optics (0 to -5.75 diopter adjustable) - Interpupillary Distance (IPD) adjustment range of 58 to 72mm - E Ink 1.3” displays - 256x256 per eye resolution - Side-lit with 3000K LEDs - Circular polarizers and transflective films https://solreader.com/technical-specs https://solreader.com/technical-specs

timmg 3y ago
Not sure how 256x256 is going to make potential customers happy.
- johnboiles 3y ago
  Working on more, but nothing exists off-the-shelf for >300ppi eink. No one has ever done eink under magnification like this so higher density screens don't exist (yet). We made a custom bitmap font system and font to squeeze every bit of optimization out of this screen that we can. Text rendering isn't pristine at this low res but it's good enough to not hinder reading. https://x.com/johnboiles/status/1715136868290081104?s=20 https://x.com/johnboiles/status/1715136868290081104?s=20

HumblyTossed 3y ago

Yeah, at this res and price, they shouldn't be showing you a page. They should be eye tracking and showing you the a line or two of text at a time so that it's much cleaner.

rescripting 3y ago
Eye tracking requires a very high refresh rate, and this is an e-ink display which have very, very slow refresh rates.

chankstein38 3y ago

$350 to preorder THIS?

lawlessone 3y ago
For that price i would expect it to load all my books into a VR world simulating a quiet study room in mansion. The new oculus meta quest 3 could do this and the price difference while nearly double isn't huge if someone really as 350 spare to spend on this. And the oculus would have headphones, this doens't?

lloyds_barclays 3y ago

For the most advanced e-ink display, it offers 300 ppi. I don't think this kind of resolution is sufficient for VR.

lawlessone 3y ago
I know e-ink is expensive. But two tiny screens aren't THAT expensive. Someone will probably a have version of this on Hack A Day made from spares.
- krabizzwainch 3y ago
  I have actually made a pi powered eReader with a 2.7 inch eink screen with Python. I could pretty easily swap the code over to work with the 1.3 inch screens they use here. And no, I suck at doing write ups on my projects so I don’t have one lol. But here is the write up someone else did when they saw my post on Reddit. https://www.hackster.io/news/diy-e-reader-incorporates-mechanical-key-switches-7755045a3c3c https://www.hackster.io/news/diy-e-reader-incorporates-mecha...
  - johnboiles 3y ago
    Any interest in hacking on sol reader with us?
    - reneherse 3y ago
      This kind of interaction is what I love about HN! :D
    - krabizzwainch 3y ago
      Hi! Sorry I didn’t see this when you commented. I would definitely be interested in trying to hack on one of these
- johnboiles 3y ago
  The only particularly cutting edge tech on this thing are the custom pancake lenses. Same optics style as in the Vision Pro and Quest 3. Those are $$$

johnboiles 3y ago

I posted some IRL through-the-lens views yesterday on Twitter https://x.com/johnboiles/status/1715136868290081104?s=20 https://x.com/johnboiles/status/1715136868290081104?s=20

bookofjoe 3y ago

DOA

lelag 3y ago

I thought you were trolling... but no, you are not. For those who want to see more lens shots, you can scroll to "Product Specs" and click the 2nd tab "Navigation".