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People should seriously stop being surprised that the objective of corporations under a capitalistic world order is to maximize shareholder wealth and not to di

People should seriously stop being surprised that the objective of corporations under a capitalistic world order is to maximize shareholder wealth and not to dismantle oppressive authoritarian regimes.

smt88 3y ago
They shouldn't stop being outraged though, which means it's still newsworthy and important to discuss.
- rTX5CMRXIfFG 3y ago
  I don’t disagree but all that outrage is just meaningless virtue signaling unless people question and vote to change the very values that guide the actions that create the problem. Last I checked, citizens of certain world powers refuse to do exactly that.
  - smoldesu 3y ago
    > all that outrage is just meaningless virtue signaling Virtue signalling is when you do something menial or deferent to target a specific population. Like when you'd modify a film to remove certain flags or introduce story-beats for an overseas audience. Outrage is not really virtue signalling, especially when the "virtue" is a anti-American trait being exploited by a company outside American jurisdiction. People are justifiably angry, and expressing that because they know their vote isn't worth anything as citizens of certain world powers.
    - smt88 3y ago
      > Virtue signalling is when you do something menial or deferent to target a specific population. Like when you'd modify a film to remove certain flags or introduce story-beats for an overseas audience. This is not correct. You're describing pandering. Virtue signalling isn't when you do something meaningful for a target audience, it's when you don't do something. It's limited to speech. From Cambridge Dictionary[1]: > "an attempt to show other people that you are a good person, for example by expressing opinions that will be acceptable to them, especially on social media" Only expressing outrage and doing nothing with is would certainly be virtue signalling. In this case, the outrage can and should lead to people watching less Apple TV+ or rethinking their relationship with Apple as a whole. 1. https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/virtue-signalling https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/virtu...
  - thfuran 3y ago
    >but all that outrage is just meaningless virtue signaling Only if it’s performative.
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parineum 3y ago
Yeah, companies under oppressive authoritarian regimes are so much more effective at dismantling oppressive authoritarian regimes... It's definitely capitalism that's the problem here.

smt88 3y ago

They shouldn't stop being outraged though, which means it's still newsworthy and important to discuss.

rTX5CMRXIfFG 3y ago
I don’t disagree but all that outrage is just meaningless virtue signaling unless people question and vote to change the very values that guide the actions that create the problem. Last I checked, citizens of certain world powers refuse to do exactly that.
- smoldesu 3y ago
  > all that outrage is just meaningless virtue signaling Virtue signalling is when you do something menial or deferent to target a specific population. Like when you'd modify a film to remove certain flags or introduce story-beats for an overseas audience. Outrage is not really virtue signalling, especially when the "virtue" is a anti-American trait being exploited by a company outside American jurisdiction. People are justifiably angry, and expressing that because they know their vote isn't worth anything as citizens of certain world powers.
  - smt88 3y ago
    > Virtue signalling is when you do something menial or deferent to target a specific population. Like when you'd modify a film to remove certain flags or introduce story-beats for an overseas audience. This is not correct. You're describing pandering. Virtue signalling isn't when you do something meaningful for a target audience, it's when you don't do something. It's limited to speech. From Cambridge Dictionary[1]: > "an attempt to show other people that you are a good person, for example by expressing opinions that will be acceptable to them, especially on social media" Only expressing outrage and doing nothing with is would certainly be virtue signalling. In this case, the outrage can and should lead to people watching less Apple TV+ or rethinking their relationship with Apple as a whole. 1. https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/virtue-signalling https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/virtu...
- thfuran 3y ago
  >but all that outrage is just meaningless virtue signaling Only if it’s performative.

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parineum 3y ago

Yeah, companies under oppressive authoritarian regimes are so much more effective at dismantling oppressive authoritarian regimes... It's definitely capitalism that's the problem here.