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I'm just saying exactly that - anybody may now take two sets of photos and compare the amount of rampage over the time period to approximate the "DPS" done to c

I'm just saying exactly that - anybody may now take two sets of photos and compare the amount of rampage over the time period to approximate the "DPS" done to civilian infrastructure. Of course, I cannot prevent that person from being in denial due to cognitive dissonance.

jnsaff2 3y ago
The words you wrote here make no sense and are in direct contradiction to your original claim. Can you please clarify your thoughts?
- thriftwy 3y ago
  My thoughts are that the press (and moreso twitter) has a very skewed way to report stuff. It is designed for entertainment value and not for rigor, and also to push a narrative. Having two sets if inputs regarding somewhat similar events allows you to do a reality check. For example, you can compare civilian infrastructure damage footage from Gaza and that of Ukraine and arrive to some conclusions.
  - jnsaff2 3y ago
    How does this lead you to your original claim of: > The recent Israeli-Palestine conflict has shown that Russo-Ukrainian war is actually fought very carefully from both sides.
    - thriftwy 3y ago
      Because the Gaza footage is quite a mess. You will have hard times matching it with Ukraine footage. Sometimes, whole neighbourhoods of civilian high rises were levelled. Meanwhile, obviously the carnage of civilians during the initial Gaza raid is also something that you will have hard time matching with anything happening in Ukraine. Perhaps you will derive something different from these pictures, I just suggest doing that instead of going along with narratives.
      - _kbh_ 3y ago
        > Because the Gaza footage is quite a mess. You will have hard times matching it with Ukraine footage. Sometimes, whole neighbourhoods of civilian high rises were levelled. Russia has literally deleted entire Ukrainian cities off the map, so this is a very strange paragraph to right. The only difference is in Ukraine the civilians were told to evacuate there homes when the Russians are near by, in Gaza they are told to stay in there homes by Hamas. It is also much harder to evacuate people in Gaza.
        thriftwy 3y ago
        That is the difference. People in Gaza also have nowhere to go if they wanted.
        _kbh_ 3y ago
        > That is the difference. People in Gaza also have nowhere to go if they wanted. Exactly, the difference isn't that in the Ukraine war that the Russians are being careful or precise, it's that the Ukrainian citizens can actually evacuate from the areas they are in.
        thriftwy 3y ago
        They won't be if Russia decided to start with a massive air strikes campaign before even starting ground offensive. But that's not happened - not against the apartment blocks, anyway.
        jnsaff2 3y ago
        Really? So you don't remember the bombing of Kyiv where corners of high rise apartment blocks were blown of by rockets and artillery. Or Kharkiv where whole blocks of apartment buildings were demolished by indiscriminate shelling?
        thriftwy 3y ago

jnsaff2 3y ago

The words you wrote here make no sense and are in direct contradiction to your original claim. Can you please clarify your thoughts?

thriftwy 3y ago
My thoughts are that the press (and moreso twitter) has a very skewed way to report stuff. It is designed for entertainment value and not for rigor, and also to push a narrative. Having two sets if inputs regarding somewhat similar events allows you to do a reality check. For example, you can compare civilian infrastructure damage footage from Gaza and that of Ukraine and arrive to some conclusions.
- jnsaff2 3y ago
  How does this lead you to your original claim of: > The recent Israeli-Palestine conflict has shown that Russo-Ukrainian war is actually fought very carefully from both sides.
  - thriftwy 3y ago
    Because the Gaza footage is quite a mess. You will have hard times matching it with Ukraine footage. Sometimes, whole neighbourhoods of civilian high rises were levelled. Meanwhile, obviously the carnage of civilians during the initial Gaza raid is also something that you will have hard time matching with anything happening in Ukraine. Perhaps you will derive something different from these pictures, I just suggest doing that instead of going along with narratives.
    - _kbh_ 3y ago
      > Because the Gaza footage is quite a mess. You will have hard times matching it with Ukraine footage. Sometimes, whole neighbourhoods of civilian high rises were levelled. Russia has literally deleted entire Ukrainian cities off the map, so this is a very strange paragraph to right. The only difference is in Ukraine the civilians were told to evacuate there homes when the Russians are near by, in Gaza they are told to stay in there homes by Hamas. It is also much harder to evacuate people in Gaza.
      - thriftwy 3y ago
        That is the difference. People in Gaza also have nowhere to go if they wanted.
        _kbh_ 3y ago
        > That is the difference. People in Gaza also have nowhere to go if they wanted. Exactly, the difference isn't that in the Ukraine war that the Russians are being careful or precise, it's that the Ukrainian citizens can actually evacuate from the areas they are in.
        thriftwy 3y ago
        They won't be if Russia decided to start with a massive air strikes campaign before even starting ground offensive. But that's not happened - not against the apartment blocks, anyway.
        jnsaff2 3y ago
        Really? So you don't remember the bombing of Kyiv where corners of high rise apartment blocks were blown of by rockets and artillery. Or Kharkiv where whole blocks of apartment buildings were demolished by indiscriminate shelling?
        thriftwy 3y ago