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This question seems to make a lot of sense, but I think you should reconsider your assumptions ie. hidden ones. If a lion eats your wife, do you hold it "respo
by P_I_Staker 3y ago
This question seems to make a lot of sense, but I think you should reconsider your assumptions ie. hidden ones.
If a lion eats your wife, do you hold it "responsible"? I think the answer is probably no. However you would get angry and shoot it (assuming you're a normal person).
So this doesn't mean very much: "responsible", "not responsible". In fact if it's a lion we use lack of free will as a REASON to use deadly force to kill (without trial). Perhaps we're not holding it "responsible", but then who cares?
Do you really care about "the principle" of being able to BLAME people for their actions, even though the outcome is pretty clearly not tied to it. Lion, blameless, shoot it to be safe. Person, blameless, better give a reduced sentence, or perhaps let off entirely.
So there's stuff going on here that we're closing our eyes and ignoring. How do we hold PEOPLE accountable? We just do. Like the Lion. You know the weird thing? Believe it or not, you would likely actually get angry at the Lion, even though it didn't really "do" anything to you.
In any case, our reasoning for acting in the face of injustices, goes further than someone did something wrong, they get punished because of their bad actions. Some aspects I can explain, but part of human nature is a little mysterious.
P.S. Here's a side theory. This philosophy exposes our privileges and this is why you get uncomfortable. Why do we kill the Lion and why do we get a trial, and maybe even let off (for not having free will, or for free will "malfunction"). Could it be because our culture and society aren't fair? Is that why this makes you feel bad? What if you replaced the Lion with a racial minority?
It's correct that our morals now say that black people count as human, but perhaps there's more going on here than we realize. Perhaps our entire way of thinking is more warped than we realize.
- I_Am_Nous 3y agoI am reminded of a South African court case I read a while back (which I can't seem to find now) where there was some confusion when a Japanese man was thought to be Chinese. Chinese people were not considered "white" but Japanese people were. If I remember correctly, he was trying to board a bus (or a taxi?) and was denied because of Apartheid laws but was later able to "prove" his "whiteness" by showing he was Japanese. Humans suck at recognizing the human-ness of other humans.