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> Nobody cares That’s a mental shortcut. Social circle you decided to be in doesn’t care. On the other hand I did research on WhatsApp vs. alternatives and de
by xlii 3y ago
> Nobody cares
That’s a mental shortcut. Social circle you decided to be in doesn’t care.
On the other hand I did research on WhatsApp vs. alternatives and decided to promote Telegram. Sure, it’s not that/very secure, but UX is on completely different level than Signal. It was much easier to transition people on aesthetics alone in comparison to Signal which has its own “quirks” (making sense from security standpoint but perceived as anti-features for casual user e.g. history transfer).
- liopleurodon 3y ago>Social circle you decided to be in doesn't care. I didn't choose the family I was born into, lol
- ciberado 3y agoI took the phones of my parents and siblings to install Telegram on them myself ;) My brother and sister use it sporadically, but I still can send them messages knowing they will read them sooner or later. My parents are more proficient with it than me, now :).
- j16sdiz 3y agoIf my kid or sibling took my phone and install ANYTHING on them, i would wipe reset the phone and never trust them ever again.
- numpad0 3y agoThis was always the problem. Your social media environment and opsec too relies largely on your social graph that you have no control over. Maybe LLM based scraping/automation solve this mid-long term?
- jacooper 3y agoMoving to telegram doesn't make sense at all if you are worried about your privacy, it's not encrypted and they have access to all of your messages, a huge downgrade.
- Mayora13 3y agoElement is already better than most other Messenger Frontends. Matrix is becomming incredibly sexy. Also Element is working on element-x android and ios that is using the Matrix Rust SDK. Also matrix spaces is more elegant than telegram folders.
- jacooper 3y agoTrue but until element X is fully ready, it's not usable for the average user. Also, it's still not great on the desktop.
- herbst 3y agoA private company having apparently access to all my messages (it's not true, there is encryption) is still somewhat better than meta AND the whole US government having access to my data
- HenryBemis 3y ago> it's not true, there is encryption Who has the keys? What exactly is encrypted? 1-2-1 chats? Group chats? Attachments? Are metadata handed over? Dear Autumn12 don't just read the marketing material. In a real example: Apple's Cloud has a copy of most users' data as (by f...g default) when you activate an iphone it enables them all. I remember the case with that terrorist (was it the Boston Marathon guy?) that Apple wouldn't hack the device but they handed everything they had on their cloud to FBI.
- herbst 3y agoOp claimed it's not encrypted. Which again is simply wrong. Other than that you'll find details about their p2p encryption here https://core.telegram.org/api/end-to-end https://core.telegram.org/api/end-to-end if you want. I don't know what you want to say with your example, but there are dozens of examples where telegram did not give out data even thought they likely should have. It's definitely a more private choice to apple or meta