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FBI says North Korea deployed thousands of IT workers to get remote jobs in US

22 points by bratao 3y ago

viraptor 3y ago
> FBI officials said the scheme is so prevalent that companies must be extra vigilant in verifying whom they are hiring, including requiring interviewees to at least be seen via video. I'm confused about what do they mean here. What would anyone be able to verify about a person on the video if that worker had enough English language skills to chat with them? It's not like they will have Kim's portrait on the wall ;) But seriously - how would someone verify they're not hiring a North Korean person if the paperwork looks legit?
- kube-system 3y ago
  The press release they put out has some details: https://www.ic3.gov/Media/Y2023/PSA231018 https://www.ic3.gov/Media/Y2023/PSA231018 > Unwillingness or inability to appear on camera, conduct video interviews or video meetings; inconsistencies when they do appear on camera, such as time, location, or appearance. > During video verification, require individuals to physically hold driver's licenses, passports, or identification documents up to camera. Consider having them show their location by having the camera directed outside. I think it is already fairly common for companies to actually validate photo IDs, either in person if the person is hybrid, or via video if fully remote.
  - addicted 3y ago
    For the video verification you’d have to be careful, as a company, to separate the verifier from the interviewer. In many states trying to identify the location of an individual (where they live, etc) in an interview can be illegal.
    - kube-system 3y ago
      In my experience, I've never seen a company do any validation of anything until the onboarding process.
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- nnurmanov 3y ago
  It is possible id you have an intermediate company, who can subcontract to anyone
macintux 3y ago
Dup: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37940713 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37940713
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bazylevnik0 3y ago
In Russia they(watchdogs) also are monitoring activity with connection to western IT, even open-source. While you contributing: "you help to our enemy".

22 points by bratao 3y ago

> FBI officials said the scheme is so prevalent that companies must be extra vigilant in verifying whom they are hiring, including requiring interviewees to at least be seen via video. I'm confused about what do they mean here. What would anyone be able to verify about a person on the video if that worker had enough English language skills to chat with them? It's not like they will have Kim's portrait on the wall ;) But seriously - how would someone verify they're not hiring a North Korean person if the paperwork looks legit?

kube-system 3y ago
The press release they put out has some details: https://www.ic3.gov/Media/Y2023/PSA231018 https://www.ic3.gov/Media/Y2023/PSA231018 > Unwillingness or inability to appear on camera, conduct video interviews or video meetings; inconsistencies when they do appear on camera, such as time, location, or appearance. > During video verification, require individuals to physically hold driver's licenses, passports, or identification documents up to camera. Consider having them show their location by having the camera directed outside. I think it is already fairly common for companies to actually validate photo IDs, either in person if the person is hybrid, or via video if fully remote.
- addicted 3y ago
  For the video verification you’d have to be careful, as a company, to separate the verifier from the interviewer. In many states trying to identify the location of an individual (where they live, etc) in an interview can be illegal.
  - kube-system 3y ago
    In my experience, I've never seen a company do any validation of anything until the onboarding process.
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nnurmanov 3y ago
It is possible id you have an intermediate company, who can subcontract to anyone

macintux 3y ago

Dup: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37940713 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37940713

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bazylevnik0 3y ago

In Russia they(watchdogs) also are monitoring activity with connection to western IT, even open-source. While you contributing: "you help to our enemy".