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Genuinely curious to know which apps you are referring to.

gumby 3y ago
Off the top of my head here are some notorious examples you can look up from the Jobs era: On the consumer side, iMovie was probably the worst, not even being able to read projects made in the prior version. Not just the interface but the whole paradigm was different, only supporting a few features of the original program. I gave up on it. iPhotos was another example: it had languished, but what came out had less functionality (no more external streams, for example) and simply threw info away (tags, face recognition, added metadata like location was all gone). Links to external tools were no longer available, though added later. This happened to Pages and Numbers (& Keynote?) as well but I don't know if they count as consumer or pro apps. Consumer I guess. On the Pro Side, replacing Final Cut Pro with Final Cut X (~2010 or 2011) pretty much drive video production off the Apple platform onto Windows. Like the iMovie case (I guess they didn't learn) it was a completely new interface without most of the features of the old version. I hear a lot of the functionality made it back in over the following decade, but you wonder why. I think the loss of the pro production side in video (and replacement by Adobe) led to the abandonment of Aperture too. Apple announced that the consumer product Apple Photos was supposed to be the replacement -- what a joke!
- flakes 3y ago
  I feel like this was a trend. Windows Movie Maker from XP was tremendously better than all of their replacements. I remember using that heavily when I was in middle-school, making stop motions and stupid videos with my friends.
  - porridgeraisin 3y ago
    I swear. It was really really good. Wonder if we can still download it somehow
- rswail 3y ago
  From Apple's perspective, they used to need that pro "creative" image to build their own brand. Their advertising, their products, were all about getting that brand. But now, the Apple brand has its own status, independently of any particular group. Their products have gone the same way.
b3morales 3y ago
There can be no clearer example than iTunes's downgrade into the awful Music and somehow even worse Podcasts. On the plus it has invogorated the 3rd party space.
- nmfisher 3y ago
  I was never a fan of iTunes but at least I could usually wrangle it to do what I wanted. Music, on the other hand, is simply horrendous. I have never cursed the Apple ecosystem as much as when I try to put music on my iPhone.

Off the top of my head here are some notorious examples you can look up from the Jobs era: On the consumer side, iMovie was probably the worst, not even being able to read projects made in the prior version. Not just the interface but the whole paradigm was different, only supporting a few features of the original program. I gave up on it. iPhotos was another example: it had languished, but what came out had less functionality (no more external streams, for example) and simply threw info away (tags, face recognition, added metadata like location was all gone). Links to external tools were no longer available, though added later. This happened to Pages and Numbers (& Keynote?) as well but I don't know if they count as consumer or pro apps. Consumer I guess. On the Pro Side, replacing Final Cut Pro with Final Cut X (~2010 or 2011) pretty much drive video production off the Apple platform onto Windows. Like the iMovie case (I guess they didn't learn) it was a completely new interface without most of the features of the old version. I hear a lot of the functionality made it back in over the following decade, but you wonder why. I think the loss of the pro production side in video (and replacement by Adobe) led to the abandonment of Aperture too. Apple announced that the consumer product Apple Photos was supposed to be the replacement -- what a joke!

flakes 3y ago
I feel like this was a trend. Windows Movie Maker from XP was tremendously better than all of their replacements. I remember using that heavily when I was in middle-school, making stop motions and stupid videos with my friends.
- porridgeraisin 3y ago
  I swear. It was really really good. Wonder if we can still download it somehow
rswail 3y ago
From Apple's perspective, they used to need that pro "creative" image to build their own brand. Their advertising, their products, were all about getting that brand. But now, the Apple brand has its own status, independently of any particular group. Their products have gone the same way.

b3morales 3y ago

There can be no clearer example than iTunes's downgrade into the awful Music and somehow even worse Podcasts. On the plus it has invogorated the 3rd party space.

nmfisher 3y ago
I was never a fan of iTunes but at least I could usually wrangle it to do what I wanted. Music, on the other hand, is simply horrendous. I have never cursed the Apple ecosystem as much as when I try to put music on my iPhone.