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Did Andreesson argue that fire services should be privatized in his manifesto? Damn. Now I must read it immediately.
by fdschoeneman 3y ago
Did Andreesson argue that fire services should be privatized in his manifesto?
Damn. Now I must read it immediately.
- marcus_holmes 3y agoHe said "markets are better for everything". So yes.
- fdschoeneman 3y agoI just searched Andreesson's manifesto and I cannot find the phrase you are attributing to him.
- marcus_holmes 3y agoThere's a whole section entitled Markets that you obviously missed: "We believe free markets are the most effective way to organize a technological economy." - is what I'm paraphrasing, and the first sentence in that section. but there's more: "Markets prevent monopolies and cartels." - provably wrong. Anti-trust regulations are needed to interfere in markets to prevent monopolies and cartels. "We believe markets are an inherently individualistic way to achieve superior collective outcomes." - see Fire Service for counter-argument "We believe there is no conflict between capitalist profits and a social welfare system that protects the vulnerable. " - laughably wrong in the face of US healthcare vs everywhere else in the world "We believe central economic planning elevates the worst of us and drags everyone down; markets exploit the best of us to benefit all of us." - again, Fire Service
- chaps 3y ago(FYI: you're arguing with someone who, four minutes before the post you responded to, admitted they've not actually read it.)
- marcus_holmes 3y agohaha, fair point. It's worth reading, I think. It's a coherent point of view. I agree with a lot of it. Just not the "trickle-down economics" version of market-driven capitalism that he supports.
- fdschoeneman 3y agoI have now read the manifesto. It is clear that you attempted to pass off a distorted and inaccurate paraphrase as his words. You should not have done that. It was dishonest and you have wasted everyone's time.
- marcus_holmes 3y agoI disagree. I think "markets are better for everything" is an accurate paraphrase of "We believe free markets are the most effective way to organize a technological economy.". Especially given the context of the rest of that Markets section. Nowhere in that section does he concede that markets might not be the best solution for any given problem.
- fdschoeneman 3y agoIf "everything" was the same as a technological economy" it would be an accurate paraphrase. But those two are not the same things. And while you're welcome to disagree, you're not welcome to waste any more of my time.