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You just have to read the first paragraph. So much laziness... " A military base in southern Syria where U.S. troops have maintained a presence to train forces

You just have to read the first paragraph. So much laziness... " A military base in southern Syria where U.S. troops have maintained a presence to train forces as part of a broad campaign against the Islamic State group was attacked by drones on Thursday, two U.S. officials told The Associated Press."

ShivShankaran 3y ago
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millzlane 3y ago
I think it's a valid question. Read between the lines. https://www.stripes.com/theaters/middle_east/2023-08-17/syria-iraq-isis-11075274.html https://www.stripes.com/theaters/middle_east/2023-08-17/syri... https://dod.defense.gov/OIR/ https://dod.defense.gov/OIR/
- thefounder 3y ago
  The question should be why the U.S is not doing more not why it has a military base in Syria. The lesson from Afghanistan is that military alone is not sufficient. Social and political issues(i.e bribery vulnerabilities, education level of the locals, Turkey's relation with the kurds) needs to be addressed as well. However you can't train local troops without a military base in the first place regardless of their education level nor you can enforce social changes.
betaby 3y ago
Your quote is circular. There is base because US want so, not more not less.
- thefounder 3y ago
  I don't see anything circular in that. U.S wants to protect its interests in that region and to do so it considers it needs a military base. As the only military Superpower I think it makes sense. Are you looking for a different kind of argument(i.e ethical or biblical)?
  - betaby 3y ago
    Let's go for a biblical one. Circular one I've see twice in this thread.
    - thefounder 3y ago
      Unfortunately I don't have that one. You have to ask on a different forum.
  - s1artibartfast 3y ago
    I think it was ethical or political. e.g. "WTF is the US doing having bases in Syria". The answer of "WFT it wants to" isn't very enlightening, even from a realpolitik perspective. Why is the US occupying part of Syria? Why is the US involved in the middle east at all?
    - thefounder 3y ago
      >> Why is the US occupying part of Syria? Why is the US involved in the middle east at all? Because it has economic or geopolitical interests(or both) in there and because it can. Even a tiny country(i.e Belarus, North Korea) can play a role in a big conflict so why would U.S give up influence? If the U.S doesn't show up Russia or China takes the whole cake(influence wise). Not to mention the 9/11 thing. Imagine the whole Syria ruled by Al-Qaeda or IS Like it or not America's isolationism ended after WWII began and I think overall it was a good thing for the whole world(at least a big part of it).
      - s1artibartfast 3y ago
        You didn't answer the question. You just said "doing what it wants“ in different words. It sounds like you have no idea what those nebulous reasons are.

ShivShankaran 3y ago

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millzlane 3y ago

I think it's a valid question. Read between the lines. https://www.stripes.com/theaters/middle_east/2023-08-17/syria-iraq-isis-11075274.html https://www.stripes.com/theaters/middle_east/2023-08-17/syri... https://dod.defense.gov/OIR/ https://dod.defense.gov/OIR/

thefounder 3y ago
The question should be why the U.S is not doing more not why it has a military base in Syria. The lesson from Afghanistan is that military alone is not sufficient. Social and political issues(i.e bribery vulnerabilities, education level of the locals, Turkey's relation with the kurds) needs to be addressed as well. However you can't train local troops without a military base in the first place regardless of their education level nor you can enforce social changes.

betaby 3y ago

Your quote is circular. There is base because US want so, not more not less.

thefounder 3y ago
I don't see anything circular in that. U.S wants to protect its interests in that region and to do so it considers it needs a military base. As the only military Superpower I think it makes sense. Are you looking for a different kind of argument(i.e ethical or biblical)?
- betaby 3y ago
  Let's go for a biblical one. Circular one I've see twice in this thread.
  - thefounder 3y ago
    Unfortunately I don't have that one. You have to ask on a different forum.
- s1artibartfast 3y ago
  I think it was ethical or political. e.g. "WTF is the US doing having bases in Syria". The answer of "WFT it wants to" isn't very enlightening, even from a realpolitik perspective. Why is the US occupying part of Syria? Why is the US involved in the middle east at all?
  - thefounder 3y ago
    >> Why is the US occupying part of Syria? Why is the US involved in the middle east at all? Because it has economic or geopolitical interests(or both) in there and because it can. Even a tiny country(i.e Belarus, North Korea) can play a role in a big conflict so why would U.S give up influence? If the U.S doesn't show up Russia or China takes the whole cake(influence wise). Not to mention the 9/11 thing. Imagine the whole Syria ruled by Al-Qaeda or IS Like it or not America's isolationism ended after WWII began and I think overall it was a good thing for the whole world(at least a big part of it).
    - s1artibartfast 3y ago
      You didn't answer the question. You just said "doing what it wants“ in different words. It sounds like you have no idea what those nebulous reasons are.