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Some people are angry that arXiv which is probably the most important repository of science are getting public funding because big tech companies are using it t
by elashri 3y ago
Some people are angry that arXiv which is probably the most important repository of science are getting public funding because big tech companies are using it to publish their work, and they should fund that from their deep buckets. Are you aware of the consequences of what you are suggesting?
If you are funding something, you have some authority over what you are funding. Directly or even indirectly (If you don't follow our suggestions, we might revisit our financial contribution). So you want to put the place that should be open and independent under the thump of corporations that does not always have the same goals as the benefit of the science and public interest?
- gerdesj 3y agoOpen Source is ... open source. There is nothing wrong with chucking money at Archive to help with costs, provided that money does not come with menaces. The basic idea is that if you profit in some way from an open repository of ... something then why not contribute to it? If enough people/orgs contribute then we are all good. Otherwise, if the org behind the project is an individual doing it as a hobby and they can't afford to continue then they might need support. In the end Archive and co have costs attached. You don't have to contribute but it might be nice if you did.
- dchftcs 3y agoPublic money indirectly comes from the most profitable companies, so it's not as bad as you suggest. I'd also say there are worse freeriders of academic research in the economy than big tech.
- elashri 3y ago> I'd also say there are worse freeriders of academic research in the economy than big tech Are you talking about Elsevier, et al. How dare you?
- fpgaminer 3y ago> Public money indirectly comes from the most profitable companies (In the U.S.) Corporations only account for 6% of federal tax revenue (https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/federal/us-tax-revenue-by-tax-type-2023/ https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/federal/us-tax-revenue-by...). And probably the most profitable companies are the ones that are the best at skirting corporate tax law...
- dchftcs 3y agoThere's sales tax for customers, income (and payroll) tax for employees, and then taxes on dividends, and then capital gains on stocks. Low-margin SMEs contribute proportionately very little tax compared to Google when we account for tax contribution this way.
- riku_iki 3y agoEmployees payroll and income taxes come before margin?
- dchftcs 3y agoI guess you're referring to my specification of low-margin. As I also specified SME, what that means is both low-margin and low-revenue. And the true intented meaning is that all cash flows one might want to tax (mostly with progressive rates) are small.
- riku_iki 3y ago> And the true intented meaning is that all cash flows one might want to tax (mostly with progressive rates) are small. rates become high fast enough for employees of sme to start paying substantial taxes, and payroll taxes don't have progressive rates, and ss is actually regressive tax.
- afandian 3y agoYou may be interested in https://openscholarlyinfrastructure.org/ https://openscholarlyinfrastructure.org/
- waveBidder 3y agoyou have a good point but why are you, uh, subtweeting them