> I never said this. I never claimed that you did, instead I was trying to categorize all god claims into one of two groups, and for each group give the reason

> I never said this. I never claimed that you did, instead I was trying to categorize all god claims into one of two groups, and for each group give the reason why I don’t believe any claims that the deities in that group exist. > You do not understand what all of this has to do with the meaning of Universe, because you fail to understand that, without it, there are no reasons to think long-term for each logical individual. This is a claim and you should provide evidence for it rather than shifting the burden of proof to me.