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Why is there a communist flag for traditional Chinese?

askiiart 3y ago
It seems to be the Chinese flag now, same as Simplified Chinese. It seems the flag got updated after this comment, then.
- purpleturnip1 3y ago
  I think the original comment is referring to the PROC flag as communist, which is used for both languages. My impression is that the original commenter wants the ROC/Taiwan flag or Hong Kong flag used instead. (Unless a different flag was used and it was switched, but I find that more unlikely due to quick timing.)
  - askiiart 3y ago
    Ah, sorry about that. I'm pretty uninformed on the China-HK-Taiwan geopoli. I assumed by communist they were referring to the USSR flag. And as for the timing, I agree that such a quick fix is unlikely. I conflated the posts time with the time of the comment, and 15 hours seemed like plenty of time to fix it :P
    - leviathanch 3y ago
      I can explain that, because I made the website. The project started out in Hong Kong, where we've rented out a clean room and I made the first transistors in the lab there. Back then we got some funding from the PRC, because some folks were interested into my argument of the possibility of CIA/NSA hardware back-doors in Chinese hardware... Spying goes both ways, and you gotta pitch your projects depending on the situation. Then however, the pandemic started and folks started setting the campus on fire because of the extradition treaty protests, so we ran out of money and now I'm in Portugal.
      - Tabular-Iceberg 3y ago
        And using their flag as a language icon was a condition for funding? While using the flag of the communist insurgents who hold the mainland for traditional Chinese is particularly egregious, the two other flags, US and German, aren't correct either, and neither is really the ROC flag for traditional Chinese. I would have just followed the recommendation not to use national flags as language icons.
        leviathanch 3y ago
        Yeah, I'm still thinking about how I could make the language selection differently. But you're not the first person screeching around over details on the site. A while ago someone claimed I'd "hate women" because I refuse to add pronouns and so to the team page. I rather focus on the important things, you know, like actually producing chips?
    - leviathanch 3y ago
      When it comes to the flags for traditional Chinese, that's a bug with the stylesheet... just noticed it as well... NO ONE, except mainland China uses simplified Chinese tho, so it's pretty much, as a matter of fact, a national thing. When it comes to traditional Chinese, it can either be Taiwan OR Hong Kong, they both are still using characters, which turn into black illegible blobs when printed with font size 12 LOL
  - wiml 3y ago
    Using national flags as a language symbol is pretty dodgy anyway. I suppose I could get upset that there's a monarchist flag for English on most websites.
perihelions 3y ago
Definitely eyebrow-raising to a see a project about "trustworthy" hardware / "supply-chain security" doing pro-PRC signalling with their flags! I'm not even sure it's a mistake in this case. Their website says they're collaborating with a mainland Chinese institute for their process node, Hong Kong University of Science and Technology (HKUST). They might be self-censoring on the spicy Taiwan/Hong Kong stuff to maintain this working relationship. edit: Also they (LibreSilicon) themselves claim to be based in Hong Kong, so there's that. (Might be out of date though; no tweets since Aug. 2019). https://nitter.net/LibreSilicon https://nitter.net/LibreSilicon
cracrecry 3y ago
I don't know much about those guys but it seems like what they do: You send your free source code with all the engineering work already done to china so they manufacture it and by the way if it works they can take it, modify and close the derivatives like they have done with quadcopters and 3d printers. It looks like a brilliant idea(for them).

It seems to be the Chinese flag now, same as Simplified Chinese. It seems the flag got updated after this comment, then.

purpleturnip1 3y ago
I think the original comment is referring to the PROC flag as communist, which is used for both languages. My impression is that the original commenter wants the ROC/Taiwan flag or Hong Kong flag used instead. (Unless a different flag was used and it was switched, but I find that more unlikely due to quick timing.)
- askiiart 3y ago
  Ah, sorry about that. I'm pretty uninformed on the China-HK-Taiwan geopoli. I assumed by communist they were referring to the USSR flag. And as for the timing, I agree that such a quick fix is unlikely. I conflated the posts time with the time of the comment, and 15 hours seemed like plenty of time to fix it :P
  - leviathanch 3y ago
    I can explain that, because I made the website. The project started out in Hong Kong, where we've rented out a clean room and I made the first transistors in the lab there. Back then we got some funding from the PRC, because some folks were interested into my argument of the possibility of CIA/NSA hardware back-doors in Chinese hardware... Spying goes both ways, and you gotta pitch your projects depending on the situation. Then however, the pandemic started and folks started setting the campus on fire because of the extradition treaty protests, so we ran out of money and now I'm in Portugal.
    - Tabular-Iceberg 3y ago
      And using their flag as a language icon was a condition for funding? While using the flag of the communist insurgents who hold the mainland for traditional Chinese is particularly egregious, the two other flags, US and German, aren't correct either, and neither is really the ROC flag for traditional Chinese. I would have just followed the recommendation not to use national flags as language icons.
      - leviathanch 3y ago
        Yeah, I'm still thinking about how I could make the language selection differently. But you're not the first person screeching around over details on the site. A while ago someone claimed I'd "hate women" because I refuse to add pronouns and so to the team page. I rather focus on the important things, you know, like actually producing chips?
  - leviathanch 3y ago
    When it comes to the flags for traditional Chinese, that's a bug with the stylesheet... just noticed it as well... NO ONE, except mainland China uses simplified Chinese tho, so it's pretty much, as a matter of fact, a national thing. When it comes to traditional Chinese, it can either be Taiwan OR Hong Kong, they both are still using characters, which turn into black illegible blobs when printed with font size 12 LOL
- wiml 3y ago
  Using national flags as a language symbol is pretty dodgy anyway. I suppose I could get upset that there's a monarchist flag for English on most websites.

perihelions 3y ago

Definitely eyebrow-raising to a see a project about "trustworthy" hardware / "supply-chain security" doing pro-PRC signalling with their flags! I'm not even sure it's a mistake in this case. Their website says they're collaborating with a mainland Chinese institute for their process node, Hong Kong University of Science and Technology (HKUST). They might be self-censoring on the spicy Taiwan/Hong Kong stuff to maintain this working relationship. edit: Also they (LibreSilicon) themselves claim to be based in Hong Kong, so there's that. (Might be out of date though; no tweets since Aug. 2019). https://nitter.net/LibreSilicon https://nitter.net/LibreSilicon

cracrecry 3y ago

I don't know much about those guys but it seems like what they do: You send your free source code with all the engineering work already done to china so they manufacture it and by the way if it works they can take it, modify and close the derivatives like they have done with quadcopters and 3d printers. It looks like a brilliant idea(for them).