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Rentention! One of the fundamental pillars of AARRR! (Acquisition Attention Retention Revenue Referral) I've been searching for a service like this for quite

Rentention! One of the fundamental pillars of AARRR! (Acquisition Attention Retention Revenue Referral) I've been searching for a service like this for quite some time. I have been wanting to create something homebrew for quite some time because there is clearly no offering currently available that does this. I'm still yet to test, but it looks like you guys might have nailed it. - Any signs on pricing for when you do launch? - And why is a JS library required for this? (Is it purely for the popup messaging?)

destraynor 15y ago
Hey Chris, Thanks for your comment. Regarding pricing, this is all we've said publically : http://docs.intercom.io/#PricePlans http://docs.intercom.io/#PricePlans - if it's a big obstacle and concern for you, mail me and I can give you some loose bracket to inform your decision Along with messaging, the JS library tracks web application activity sending us useful data such as "last seen" which in turn let's us email "users not seen in the past 30 days". You can use our API if you prefer http://docs.intercom.io/api http://docs.intercom.io/api but the client works really well for lots of this stuff.
- chrisacky 15y ago
  Thanks des. We are relying heavily on caching, and I noticed that you require the users email and created at to be available in the page with each snippet? Could you explain this a little more? Is this just for the initial signup for the user, or is this for every request that the user makes. I mainly ask because it would seem odd to pass the "created_at: 1234567890" in every request.
  - destraynor 15y ago
    Hey Chris, You can do this via the API instead -> http://docs.intercom.io/api http://docs.intercom.io/api We're constantly improving the way this works, but in short the reason behind the current behaviour is simply that we wanted the initial sign-up experience to be both easy and powerful. Soon it won't be necessary to pass it after the initial call (and for what it's worth it's only useful so that we can distinguish your existing users from your new signups) Hope that makes sense, Des
arien 15y ago
Could you elaborate a bit more on what is not offered by current tools? I have been in charge of reviewing and integrating various email marketing solutions for some of the companies I've worked for, I've found them usually quite complete in terms of features (some more than others, obviously).
- chrisacky 15y ago
  @arien "Could you elaborate a bit more on what is not offered by current tools?" Basically what intercom is doing. Plus.... You don't want to hammer your customers with emails. You also want to make sure that users don't get notifications which are totally irrelevant to them. Tracking all of this information is going to be hard work for your own application. There is a drop off of rentention of users at each barrier in your application. You might have a really simple flow like: 1. Sign Up 2. Create Project 3. Add something to Project 4. Add Collaborator/Files/Foobars to Project 5. Publish So at each "barrier" or hurdle, you are going to have users drop off. It's pretty important to minimize this dropoff as much as you can. If you've spent $X acquiring the users, retaining them and reducing drop offs it important. You can usually do some pretty good analytics from your own application, but then you also have to start tracking stuff like when was the last time you emailed the user. I recently set emails from KickSend to go immediately to my spam because although they were doing a good job of reminding me that I had dropped off at point 3, they were spamming me too much during each point. I really didn't need an email every day from them. But all the same, being able to create "tags" for my applicaiton and email users where they are at each point will be pretty awesome. I think that's how I understand intercom can help anyway. I might be wrong!
  - destraynor 15y ago
    Nope you're correct. You can filter your userbase any way you want. You can use our tagging feature to create segments (e.g. You can define VIP as plan = "premium" and LTV > 2000 ) and then you can create auto-messages which target segments of users, as you wish, to say whatever you way. Users can reply, and we keep track of that too. We use this data to establish a relationship score (i.e. which users you've talked to). Relationship score is great for finding users who nobody has talked to (score = 0) and there is usually good return in talking to these guys. We really believe in this product, and if you don't want our word, try here: https://twitter.com/#!/intercom/favorites https://twitter.com/#!/intercom/favorites
toast76 15y ago
We (BugHerd) have been toying with intercom for a while. The JS seems to be a quick way to get up and running, but we lean fairly heavily on the API. I'd love to see a bit of a roadmap from them actually. We built custom tagging to hook up our users with intercom; then they rolled out that feature. We wrote a timed/usage dependant notification system; then they rolled out that as well! The upside of that of course is that they're solving a real problem in sensible ways. I'm not a huge fan of the "in app" notifications, but even just as a research and email tool it's pretty amazing.
- destraynor 15y ago
  Sorry about that - I guess it proves we're really dogfooding it ourselves :) Drop me a line via Intercom with what next you'd like and I'll give you a Yes/No/Maybe for the key features.

destraynor 15y ago

Hey Chris, Thanks for your comment. Regarding pricing, this is all we've said publically : http://docs.intercom.io/#PricePlans http://docs.intercom.io/#PricePlans - if it's a big obstacle and concern for you, mail me and I can give you some loose bracket to inform your decision Along with messaging, the JS library tracks web application activity sending us useful data such as "last seen" which in turn let's us email "users not seen in the past 30 days". You can use our API if you prefer http://docs.intercom.io/api http://docs.intercom.io/api but the client works really well for lots of this stuff.

chrisacky 15y ago
Thanks des. We are relying heavily on caching, and I noticed that you require the users email and created at to be available in the page with each snippet? Could you explain this a little more? Is this just for the initial signup for the user, or is this for every request that the user makes. I mainly ask because it would seem odd to pass the "created_at: 1234567890" in every request.
- destraynor 15y ago
  Hey Chris, You can do this via the API instead -> http://docs.intercom.io/api http://docs.intercom.io/api We're constantly improving the way this works, but in short the reason behind the current behaviour is simply that we wanted the initial sign-up experience to be both easy and powerful. Soon it won't be necessary to pass it after the initial call (and for what it's worth it's only useful so that we can distinguish your existing users from your new signups) Hope that makes sense, Des

arien 15y ago

Could you elaborate a bit more on what is not offered by current tools? I have been in charge of reviewing and integrating various email marketing solutions for some of the companies I've worked for, I've found them usually quite complete in terms of features (some more than others, obviously).

chrisacky 15y ago
@arien "Could you elaborate a bit more on what is not offered by current tools?" Basically what intercom is doing. Plus.... You don't want to hammer your customers with emails. You also want to make sure that users don't get notifications which are totally irrelevant to them. Tracking all of this information is going to be hard work for your own application. There is a drop off of rentention of users at each barrier in your application. You might have a really simple flow like: 1. Sign Up 2. Create Project 3. Add something to Project 4. Add Collaborator/Files/Foobars to Project 5. Publish So at each "barrier" or hurdle, you are going to have users drop off. It's pretty important to minimize this dropoff as much as you can. If you've spent $X acquiring the users, retaining them and reducing drop offs it important. You can usually do some pretty good analytics from your own application, but then you also have to start tracking stuff like when was the last time you emailed the user. I recently set emails from KickSend to go immediately to my spam because although they were doing a good job of reminding me that I had dropped off at point 3, they were spamming me too much during each point. I really didn't need an email every day from them. But all the same, being able to create "tags" for my applicaiton and email users where they are at each point will be pretty awesome. I think that's how I understand intercom can help anyway. I might be wrong!
- destraynor 15y ago
  Nope you're correct. You can filter your userbase any way you want. You can use our tagging feature to create segments (e.g. You can define VIP as plan = "premium" and LTV > 2000 ) and then you can create auto-messages which target segments of users, as you wish, to say whatever you way. Users can reply, and we keep track of that too. We use this data to establish a relationship score (i.e. which users you've talked to). Relationship score is great for finding users who nobody has talked to (score = 0) and there is usually good return in talking to these guys. We really believe in this product, and if you don't want our word, try here: https://twitter.com/#!/intercom/favorites https://twitter.com/#!/intercom/favorites

toast76 15y ago

We (BugHerd) have been toying with intercom for a while. The JS seems to be a quick way to get up and running, but we lean fairly heavily on the API. I'd love to see a bit of a roadmap from them actually. We built custom tagging to hook up our users with intercom; then they rolled out that feature. We wrote a timed/usage dependant notification system; then they rolled out that as well! The upside of that of course is that they're solving a real problem in sensible ways. I'm not a huge fan of the "in app" notifications, but even just as a research and email tool it's pretty amazing.

destraynor 15y ago
Sorry about that - I guess it proves we're really dogfooding it ourselves :) Drop me a line via Intercom with what next you'd like and I'll give you a Yes/No/Maybe for the key features.