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Blog post author here – happy to take any questions. We're looking to unify the conda + PyPI ecosystems and build a really nice cross-platform, language indepen

by droelf 3y ago

Blog post author here – happy to take any questions. We're looking to unify the conda + PyPI ecosystems and build a really nice cross-platform, language independent package manager (which is called pixi).

singhrac 3y ago
Any chance you guys, Charlie Marsh/Astral, and Armin Ronacher will ever team up? I’m really excited about next-gen tooling but would love a cargo-like “one true path”. At the very least keep the tools compatible?
- droelf 3y ago
  Yeah, I think it would be awesome to work on top of the same foundations (rip & resolvo being two of those, and konstin's, who works with Charlie at astral, pep440_rs and pep508_rs being two others). We'll have some more conversations around this in the upcoming weeks I hope.
Uptrenda 3y ago
This is really impressive work tbh. Good job.
out-of-ideas 3y ago
as an arch user; i gotta say `aur/rip` is already in use; and i can only say good luck if you keep to a 3char name
- dcow 3y ago
  Last updated: 2015. Sourceforge. Perhaps packages that are borderline irrelevant should not squat on prime name real estate. Plus cant rip ship as rip-py and still install as rip on the bet that nobody is actually going to be trying to use these tools simultaneously?
  - tubs 3y ago
    Agreed no one uses those defunct tools like awk or roff, let's re-use them! Who cares if every build script in the world breaks, progress waits for no one.
  - Tarq0n 3y ago
    Name reuse is a huge security concern and probably shouldn't be done even if a name is under-utilized.
    - droelf 3y ago
      rip isn't really planned as a tool that you would install on your computer. It's a low-level library.
- Grimburger 3y ago
  Also rm replacement written in rust: https://github.com/nivekuil/rip https://github.com/nivekuil/rip
_ahxg 3y ago
Any plans to integrate this with Poetry?
- droelf 3y ago
  No plans but we would be happy to explore this further if the poetry-devs want to. Maybe they'll join us at PackagingCon next week: https://packaging-con.org/ https://packaging-con.org/
Tarq0n 3y ago
I noticed you're an incorporated organisation. What's your business model?
- droelf 3y ago
  We'll build some features sooner or later on the repository side that are going to be interesting for enterprise customers. But we have a strong and true commitment to open source. A non-open-source package manager would definitely not work for our community!
adonese 3y ago
Is it different than rye (rye-up.com)?
- droelf 3y ago
  Yeah, rye uses a Python build from indiegreg while we use the Python builds from conda-forge (which is a community project with many maintainers). Conda-forge also produces packages for much more (nodejs, Qt, HDF5, C/C++ compilers, LLVM ...). So we have access to a pretty big repository and a large community already :)

by droelf 3y ago

singhrac 3y ago

Any chance you guys, Charlie Marsh/Astral, and Armin Ronacher will ever team up? I’m really excited about next-gen tooling but would love a cargo-like “one true path”. At the very least keep the tools compatible?

droelf 3y ago
Yeah, I think it would be awesome to work on top of the same foundations (rip & resolvo being two of those, and konstin's, who works with Charlie at astral, pep440_rs and pep508_rs being two others). We'll have some more conversations around this in the upcoming weeks I hope.

Uptrenda 3y ago

This is really impressive work tbh. Good job.

out-of-ideas 3y ago

as an arch user; i gotta say `aur/rip` is already in use; and i can only say good luck if you keep to a 3char name

dcow 3y ago
Last updated: 2015. Sourceforge. Perhaps packages that are borderline irrelevant should not squat on prime name real estate. Plus cant rip ship as rip-py and still install as rip on the bet that nobody is actually going to be trying to use these tools simultaneously?
- tubs 3y ago
  Agreed no one uses those defunct tools like awk or roff, let's re-use them! Who cares if every build script in the world breaks, progress waits for no one.
- Tarq0n 3y ago
  Name reuse is a huge security concern and probably shouldn't be done even if a name is under-utilized.
  - droelf 3y ago
    rip isn't really planned as a tool that you would install on your computer. It's a low-level library.
Grimburger 3y ago
Also rm replacement written in rust: https://github.com/nivekuil/rip https://github.com/nivekuil/rip

_ahxg 3y ago

Any plans to integrate this with Poetry?

droelf 3y ago
No plans but we would be happy to explore this further if the poetry-devs want to. Maybe they'll join us at PackagingCon next week: https://packaging-con.org/ https://packaging-con.org/

Tarq0n 3y ago

I noticed you're an incorporated organisation. What's your business model?

droelf 3y ago
We'll build some features sooner or later on the repository side that are going to be interesting for enterprise customers. But we have a strong and true commitment to open source. A non-open-source package manager would definitely not work for our community!

adonese 3y ago

Is it different than rye (rye-up.com)?

droelf 3y ago
Yeah, rye uses a Python build from indiegreg while we use the Python builds from conda-forge (which is a community project with many maintainers). Conda-forge also produces packages for much more (nodejs, Qt, HDF5, C/C++ compilers, LLVM ...). So we have access to a pretty big repository and a large community already :)