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What work would we have to do to prevent such damage?

by baetylus 3y ago

nisa 3y ago
Abolish capitalism and greed. All attempts at that turned out worse through.
- altairTF 3y ago
  and replace with what?
  - galangalalgol 3y ago
    The land of take what you want, with the naive hope that it magically turns into the land of do as you please.
- saiya-jin 3y ago
  Abolishing part of core human nature... anything less ambitious? Its so easy to be the doomsayer, the 'I told ya so' guy etc... It takes much more mental strength to see the forest for the trees - we humans are extremely resilient and adaptable, and even in worst situations there is always tons of natural good in our hearts. And no society didn't collapse during covid, far from it. Some folks simply mistake change with end, I guess reading too much economic news can do that to even best minds. If current society would collapse, another would pop up instead, walking in the shoes of previous one, even if quite different. With fall of Rome its inhabitants didn't simply vanish into the air in Thanos style. I would be much more worried about things like search for immortality since folks like Putin would burn this world completely to the ground to get and maintain it. Or properly rogue AI, if we ever achieve that.
  - nisa 3y ago
    It's not meant as a doomsayer - we developed effective vaccines and we failed at distributing them to all humans - western countries paid ton's of tax money and some people got very rich - every else people died preventable deaths. From a technological point of production and distribution of the vaccines was possible. It didn't happen because there was no profit. Same reason even in Germany you can't get antibiotics. I'm not even go as far as in the US where a lot of people can't afford basic healthcare. In an catastrophic event goods necassary for survival will have a price and there will be a black market that will be brutal. I think and hope there is a way to distribute and create required goods fairly but I don't know how to establish and enforce such a system.
  - shiroiuma 3y ago
    >Abolishing part of core human nature... anything less ambitious? It's actually not that difficult to eliminate human greed. There was a movie about an attempt at this back in the 90s, called "12 Monkeys".

What work would we have to do to prevent such damage?

nisa 3y ago

Abolish capitalism and greed. All attempts at that turned out worse through.

altairTF 3y ago
and replace with what?
- galangalalgol 3y ago
  The land of take what you want, with the naive hope that it magically turns into the land of do as you please.
saiya-jin 3y ago
Abolishing part of core human nature... anything less ambitious? Its so easy to be the doomsayer, the 'I told ya so' guy etc... It takes much more mental strength to see the forest for the trees - we humans are extremely resilient and adaptable, and even in worst situations there is always tons of natural good in our hearts. And no society didn't collapse during covid, far from it. Some folks simply mistake change with end, I guess reading too much economic news can do that to even best minds. If current society would collapse, another would pop up instead, walking in the shoes of previous one, even if quite different. With fall of Rome its inhabitants didn't simply vanish into the air in Thanos style. I would be much more worried about things like search for immortality since folks like Putin would burn this world completely to the ground to get and maintain it. Or properly rogue AI, if we ever achieve that.
- nisa 3y ago
  It's not meant as a doomsayer - we developed effective vaccines and we failed at distributing them to all humans - western countries paid ton's of tax money and some people got very rich - every else people died preventable deaths. From a technological point of production and distribution of the vaccines was possible. It didn't happen because there was no profit. Same reason even in Germany you can't get antibiotics. I'm not even go as far as in the US where a lot of people can't afford basic healthcare. In an catastrophic event goods necassary for survival will have a price and there will be a black market that will be brutal. I think and hope there is a way to distribute and create required goods fairly but I don't know how to establish and enforce such a system.
- shiroiuma 3y ago
  >Abolishing part of core human nature... anything less ambitious? It's actually not that difficult to eliminate human greed. There was a movie about an attempt at this back in the 90s, called "12 Monkeys".