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There was at least one major (non-residential) ISP that used Huawei routers in a lot of places. Due to the previous law/rulings they were required to replace al

There was at least one major (non-residential) ISP that used Huawei routers in a lot of places. Due to the previous law/rulings they were required to replace all of them with non-prohibited vendors. The quoted segment sounds like they want to extend that to residential ISP's which makes sense to me. Using network hardware from an adversary nation is very risky. Especially when it's China which has an extensive record of state involvement in it's tech companies. Fortunately there is no indication yet that regulators in the US want to get involved with routing, or anything resembling a great firewall. The closest thing to that right now is "age verification to visit porn sites" laws that some states have enacted.

WarOnPrivacy 3y ago
> There was at least one major (non-residential) ISP that used Huawei routers in a lot of places. Due to the previous law/rulings they were required to replace all of them with non-prohibited vendors. That ISP not be fulfilling that requirement due to insufficient funding. https://www.lightreading.com/regulatory-politics/-rip-and-replace-lobbying-grows-louder https://www.lightreading.com/regulatory-politics/-rip-and-re...
- smolder 3y ago
  At any point, will any company say that they have sufficient funding, subsidies, etc.? ("You've given us enough, thank you!") Plainly, I don't believe they need or deserve that money merely because they have lobbyists/bought politicians that say they do.
  - WarOnPrivacy 3y ago
    > Plainly, I don't believe they need or deserve that money merely because they have lobbyists/bought politicians that say they do. The small ISPs need sufficient money to comply with federal orders to rip & replace expensive Huawei gear.
    - smolder 3y ago
      Yeah, I understand the premise, but I would need to see a cost breakdown before I accept the claim that they needed significantly more money than they already got. Industry groups have a tendency to plead for handouts endlessly.
      - WarOnPrivacy 3y ago
        Lobbying and fund-scamming are disproportionately done by major ISPs. Small, local ISPs are far, far less likely to have the resources to - 1) pull it off and 2) insulate themselves from the consequences. The original parent comment was referencing a local ISP.

WarOnPrivacy 3y ago

> There was at least one major (non-residential) ISP that used Huawei routers in a lot of places. Due to the previous law/rulings they were required to replace all of them with non-prohibited vendors. That ISP not be fulfilling that requirement due to insufficient funding. https://www.lightreading.com/regulatory-politics/-rip-and-replace-lobbying-grows-louder https://www.lightreading.com/regulatory-politics/-rip-and-re...

smolder 3y ago
At any point, will any company say that they have sufficient funding, subsidies, etc.? ("You've given us enough, thank you!") Plainly, I don't believe they need or deserve that money merely because they have lobbyists/bought politicians that say they do.
- WarOnPrivacy 3y ago
  > Plainly, I don't believe they need or deserve that money merely because they have lobbyists/bought politicians that say they do. The small ISPs need sufficient money to comply with federal orders to rip & replace expensive Huawei gear.
  - smolder 3y ago
    Yeah, I understand the premise, but I would need to see a cost breakdown before I accept the claim that they needed significantly more money than they already got. Industry groups have a tendency to plead for handouts endlessly.
    - WarOnPrivacy 3y ago
      Lobbying and fund-scamming are disproportionately done by major ISPs. Small, local ISPs are far, far less likely to have the resources to - 1) pull it off and 2) insulate themselves from the consequences. The original parent comment was referencing a local ISP.