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> The question is why do we consume more. Because we are offered more. Survival instinct is to eat everything in front of you. Reduce portion sizes across the

> The question is why do we consume more. Because we are offered more. Survival instinct is to eat everything in front of you. Reduce portion sizes across the board, and people would likely eat less.

taeric 3y ago
That is countered by the rest of my post, though? Having had some pets that I can leave open buckets of food out for them, and they don't gain weight, something else is clearly at play. I'm open to the idea that, statistically, more people will eat more when given more. I'm... less open to the idea that we can't learn from looking at those that don't eat in excess in those situations.
- brandonmenc 3y ago
  > pets I mean, people are not pets. I've seen plenty of pets become obese when food is unlimited. You're probably affecting the "experiment" without realizing it.
  - taeric 3y ago
    You are just repeating my first post, though? I have seen plenty of pets that do both. I've had both at the same time. Kind of obnoxious when you have one animal that you have to feed separate from others, otherwise it doesn't get any food. Super convenient when that is your only animal, as you can just make sure the bucket is there with food. The question is literally if we can find a difference between the two animals we are talking about. And that difference may be something that is addressable not at the animal level, but at the food supply level. Maybe not, of course. But a perfectly fine question to consider.
InSteady 3y ago
>Survival instinct is to eat everything in front of you. Reduce portion sizes across the board, and people would likely eat less. This is too simplistic and is not true for many people. There are also many people out there who, when faced with smaller portions, will order multiple servings or snack constantly between meals because they are always feeling the urge to eat (while typically having low energy with which to exercise). Added sugar in so many processed foods should not be ignored, as per the findings of this study. Lower energy expenditure via ATP, blocking of ability to use stored fat for ATP, and leptin resistance blocking the satiety signal play a huge role in obesity. These all appear to be directly triggered by fructose (which is present in most sugars, not just HFCS).

> The question is why do we consume more. Because we are offered more. Survival instinct is to eat everything in front of you. Reduce portion sizes across the board, and people would likely eat less.

taeric 3y ago

That is countered by the rest of my post, though? Having had some pets that I can leave open buckets of food out for them, and they don't gain weight, something else is clearly at play. I'm open to the idea that, statistically, more people will eat more when given more. I'm... less open to the idea that we can't learn from looking at those that don't eat in excess in those situations.

brandonmenc 3y ago
> pets I mean, people are not pets. I've seen plenty of pets become obese when food is unlimited. You're probably affecting the "experiment" without realizing it.
- taeric 3y ago
  You are just repeating my first post, though? I have seen plenty of pets that do both. I've had both at the same time. Kind of obnoxious when you have one animal that you have to feed separate from others, otherwise it doesn't get any food. Super convenient when that is your only animal, as you can just make sure the bucket is there with food. The question is literally if we can find a difference between the two animals we are talking about. And that difference may be something that is addressable not at the animal level, but at the food supply level. Maybe not, of course. But a perfectly fine question to consider.

InSteady 3y ago

>Survival instinct is to eat everything in front of you. Reduce portion sizes across the board, and people would likely eat less. This is too simplistic and is not true for many people. There are also many people out there who, when faced with smaller portions, will order multiple servings or snack constantly between meals because they are always feeling the urge to eat (while typically having low energy with which to exercise). Added sugar in so many processed foods should not be ignored, as per the findings of this study. Lower energy expenditure via ATP, blocking of ability to use stored fat for ATP, and leptin resistance blocking the satiety signal play a huge role in obesity. These all appear to be directly triggered by fructose (which is present in most sugars, not just HFCS).