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Database vendors typically charge by the number of cores. 64-core can get really expensive with database licenses. The hardware cost has decreased drastically

by ww520 15y ago

Database vendors typically charge by the number of cores. 64-core can get really expensive with database licenses. The hardware cost has decreased drastically over time but database licensing are still in the dark age. Postgres 9.2 has real competitive advantage here. Hopefully it would force the other vendors' licensing cost down.

jonknee 15y ago
Evidence: http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/pricing/technology-price-list-070617.pdf http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/pricing/technology-price-... "The number of required licenses shall be determined by multiplying the total number of cores of the processor by a core processor licensing factor specified on the Oracle Processor Core Factor Table" http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/contracts/processor-core-factor-table-070634.pdf http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/contracts/processor-core-... They give you a big discount for buying Sun servers (.25 factor). Either way, it's a huge amount of money, the standard edition costs a cool $17,500 per processor so with 64 cores and the best .25 multiplier you're still looking at 16 x $17,500 or $280,000 for the DB processor license (that doesn't cover support or anything else). The Enterprise edition runs an astounding $47,500 per CPU, so you can easily run north of a million dollars per server if you're running a lot of cores.
- etrain 15y ago
  Oracle tends to be pretty opaque in their pricing, and part of that is because with any sale this big, there's always going to be a lot of negotiation. Sure, it's going to be expensive, but only schmucks pay full price for a 64-core license. Still, it's good to see the best open source database out there delivering cutting edge performance. Great work!
  - mapgrep 15y ago
    Yes you can get a big discount. Then when your business booms, and you need to expand, upgrade or (for some licenses) renew, Oracle gets decide how much of your profit to take off the table in licensing fees, up to the full list. But of course I'm speaking out of school here. I have no proof Larry Ellison or his minions will pursue such ruthless business tactics. Just a feeling :)
Ecio78 15y ago
Microsoft SQL Server used to be licensed per socket and not per core (and they used to use it to market their product against Oracle). Guess what? the new 2012 version will be licensed per core too..

by ww520 15y ago

jonknee 15y ago

Evidence: http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/pricing/technology-price-list-070617.pdf http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/pricing/technology-price-... "The number of required licenses shall be determined by multiplying the total number of cores of the processor by a core processor licensing factor specified on the Oracle Processor Core Factor Table" http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/contracts/processor-core-factor-table-070634.pdf http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/contracts/processor-core-... They give you a big discount for buying Sun servers (.25 factor). Either way, it's a huge amount of money, the standard edition costs a cool $17,500 per processor so with 64 cores and the best .25 multiplier you're still looking at 16 x $17,500 or $280,000 for the DB processor license (that doesn't cover support or anything else). The Enterprise edition runs an astounding $47,500 per CPU, so you can easily run north of a million dollars per server if you're running a lot of cores.

etrain 15y ago
Oracle tends to be pretty opaque in their pricing, and part of that is because with any sale this big, there's always going to be a lot of negotiation. Sure, it's going to be expensive, but only schmucks pay full price for a 64-core license. Still, it's good to see the best open source database out there delivering cutting edge performance. Great work!
- mapgrep 15y ago
  Yes you can get a big discount. Then when your business booms, and you need to expand, upgrade or (for some licenses) renew, Oracle gets decide how much of your profit to take off the table in licensing fees, up to the full list. But of course I'm speaking out of school here. I have no proof Larry Ellison or his minions will pursue such ruthless business tactics. Just a feeling :)

Ecio78 15y ago

Microsoft SQL Server used to be licensed per socket and not per core (and they used to use it to market their product against Oracle). Guess what? the new 2012 version will be licensed per core too..