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Why not? It's the main quest of humanity. Make yourself obsolete

by scotty79 3y ago

magicink81 3y ago
Is humanity monolithic? Are other quests available?
- scotty79 3y ago
  Pretty much, and no, not really.
jprete 3y ago
Who decided that, again? Or is this an unconsciously disguised statement of techno-religion?
- unshavedyak 3y ago
  Not OP, but i took that statement to mean it's the observed quest for humanity. In every step we put great effort into ensuring we aren't the ones who work. Be it slaves, harnessing electricity, general technology and etc. We do seem to strive to push towards extremes of optimization. Consequences be damned.
  - jprete 3y ago
    That's a reasonable observation, but there's a big distinction between "aren't the ones who work" and "obsolete". My experience makes me think that people very much do _not_ want to be obsolete, and that being obsolete is devastating to one's sense of identity and social acceptance. I do think they also have the drive to work less, but there are plenty of people who do things for fun that other people would call "work".
  - nine_zeros 3y ago
    > Not OP, but i took that statement to mean it's the observed quest for humanity. In every step we put great effort into ensuring we aren't the ones who work. Be it slaves, harnessing electricity, general technology and etc. This is true. Humans have always strived to make their own lives easier. It is just that the rewards of an easier life are not being distributed to the actual people doing the work. Instead, a disproportionate amount of the gains have been going to the investor class.
- scotty79 3y ago
  Things that happen are rarely result of a decision. And even when it seems like decision was made in actuality it was just a result of historical, geographical, economical and technological factors. If this person didn't make that this decisions then, someone other would promptly.
justinclift 3y ago
Other ways are possible. Japanese culture for one seems to take a very different approach. A friend was recently explaining to me, that they seriously consider the impact of things like tech, automation, etc on jobs. So, often they decide to not automate stuff in order to keep the jobs for their workers. Sounds like better workplace stability.

Why not? It's the main quest of humanity. Make yourself obsolete

magicink81 3y ago

Is humanity monolithic? Are other quests available?

scotty79 3y ago
Pretty much, and no, not really.

jprete 3y ago

Who decided that, again? Or is this an unconsciously disguised statement of techno-religion?

unshavedyak 3y ago
Not OP, but i took that statement to mean it's the observed quest for humanity. In every step we put great effort into ensuring we aren't the ones who work. Be it slaves, harnessing electricity, general technology and etc. We do seem to strive to push towards extremes of optimization. Consequences be damned.
- jprete 3y ago
  That's a reasonable observation, but there's a big distinction between "aren't the ones who work" and "obsolete". My experience makes me think that people very much do _not_ want to be obsolete, and that being obsolete is devastating to one's sense of identity and social acceptance. I do think they also have the drive to work less, but there are plenty of people who do things for fun that other people would call "work".
- nine_zeros 3y ago
  > Not OP, but i took that statement to mean it's the observed quest for humanity. In every step we put great effort into ensuring we aren't the ones who work. Be it slaves, harnessing electricity, general technology and etc. This is true. Humans have always strived to make their own lives easier. It is just that the rewards of an easier life are not being distributed to the actual people doing the work. Instead, a disproportionate amount of the gains have been going to the investor class.
scotty79 3y ago
Things that happen are rarely result of a decision. And even when it seems like decision was made in actuality it was just a result of historical, geographical, economical and technological factors. If this person didn't make that this decisions then, someone other would promptly.

justinclift 3y ago

Other ways are possible. Japanese culture for one seems to take a very different approach. A friend was recently explaining to me, that they seriously consider the impact of things like tech, automation, etc on jobs. So, often they decide to not automate stuff in order to keep the jobs for their workers. Sounds like better workplace stability.