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Strange explanation. If Google cannot handle legit business then it should manage their resources better. Advertising malware is not legit business. "We are

by sccxy 3y ago

Strange explanation. If Google cannot handle legit business then it should manage their resources better. Advertising malware is not legit business. "We are so profitable and big" is not excuse for it. It is reason why they earn so much money, they do not care if criminals advertise malware. Now banks must spend awful lot of money to fight money laundering. Maybe it is time to force Google to take some responsibility.

DannyBee 3y ago
"Advertising malware is not legit business." Sure. I"m pointing out this simple sort of "they can easily afford to do x" is usually nonsense. I haven't commented at all on what the result should be (not allowed to do it or whatever), simply that the math that it would be simple to fix is wrong. If we are going to argue about things in a useful way, we should avoid random assertions without data that don't really advance the argument, especially when they are trivially wrong?
- sccxy 3y ago
  Sorry, but that is most fanboyish thing ever. If Google cannot handle their ad business, when there are too many customers, then stop taking new customers. Very simple. But taking money from criminals is very profitable and that is the reason. Edit: Checked DannyBee profile: "I manage developer workflow tools and services at Google" That explains why he is defending Google's scammy behaviours.
  - DannyBee 3y ago
    Ah, i see we've moved onto ad-hominen attacks and dismissal rather than engaging for real. That certainly may feel good, but it changes nothing about the argument? This sort of dismissal based on who you work for is both childish, and unproductive to a real discussion. Similar to the "most fanboyish thing ever" comment, which, honestly, if telling someone their totally unsourced math and claim is wrong, by providing data and real math, is the most fanboyish thing you've ever seen, then i think you are very lucky in what you see ;) Beyond that, i'll repeat what I said - i simply pointed out the assertion and math is wrong. That is all. You are the one claiming i am defending anything, beyond that, at all. I was very careful about not defending anything, and in fact said i'm open to all sorts of views about what to do about it. Maybe you should re-read what i wrote, and point out any point where i did anything but show that the claim made was wrong, and the math was wrong?
    - sccxy 3y ago
      Your math is wrong because you say that Google spends 0 dollars at the moment to fight scam ads. If it is true, then Google execs should be in jail right now. And proves point again that Google does not care about filtering content and it is profitable to accept money from criminals. Ofcourse if your paycheck depends of criminals money then it is very dumb to share that profit to hire more people to fight malware content. In my country there are many Google scam ads which feature local celebrities/doctors, but it is impossible to remove those ads, because Google never removes them. Zero response from Google. Even Police cannot help because nobody from Google responses. So I guess it is intentional to spread those spam ads. Even if users report those ads, Google 99% of time never takes an action to remove spam ads. With few thousand people you can remove those reported ads...

by sccxy 3y ago

DannyBee 3y ago

"Advertising malware is not legit business." Sure. I"m pointing out this simple sort of "they can easily afford to do x" is usually nonsense. I haven't commented at all on what the result should be (not allowed to do it or whatever), simply that the math that it would be simple to fix is wrong. If we are going to argue about things in a useful way, we should avoid random assertions without data that don't really advance the argument, especially when they are trivially wrong?

sccxy 3y ago
Sorry, but that is most fanboyish thing ever. If Google cannot handle their ad business, when there are too many customers, then stop taking new customers. Very simple. But taking money from criminals is very profitable and that is the reason. Edit: Checked DannyBee profile: "I manage developer workflow tools and services at Google" That explains why he is defending Google's scammy behaviours.
- DannyBee 3y ago
  Ah, i see we've moved onto ad-hominen attacks and dismissal rather than engaging for real. That certainly may feel good, but it changes nothing about the argument? This sort of dismissal based on who you work for is both childish, and unproductive to a real discussion. Similar to the "most fanboyish thing ever" comment, which, honestly, if telling someone their totally unsourced math and claim is wrong, by providing data and real math, is the most fanboyish thing you've ever seen, then i think you are very lucky in what you see ;) Beyond that, i'll repeat what I said - i simply pointed out the assertion and math is wrong. That is all. You are the one claiming i am defending anything, beyond that, at all. I was very careful about not defending anything, and in fact said i'm open to all sorts of views about what to do about it. Maybe you should re-read what i wrote, and point out any point where i did anything but show that the claim made was wrong, and the math was wrong?
  - sccxy 3y ago
    Your math is wrong because you say that Google spends 0 dollars at the moment to fight scam ads. If it is true, then Google execs should be in jail right now. And proves point again that Google does not care about filtering content and it is profitable to accept money from criminals. Ofcourse if your paycheck depends of criminals money then it is very dumb to share that profit to hire more people to fight malware content. In my country there are many Google scam ads which feature local celebrities/doctors, but it is impossible to remove those ads, because Google never removes them. Zero response from Google. Even Police cannot help because nobody from Google responses. So I guess it is intentional to spread those spam ads. Even if users report those ads, Google 99% of time never takes an action to remove spam ads. With few thousand people you can remove those reported ads...